July 30 2015 by EdJ:

“Terrarica,

Find one place where it literally states Jesus was created first by God.”

Hi Kerwin,

It is JW doctrine based on misinterpretation of a Rev 3:14 and Col 1:17 .
Pierre will not let go of this false belief no matter who explains it to him.
Rev 3:14 and Col 1:17 are about Christ’s preeminence, not a creation o…

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You are correct in your conclusion that Jesus is not God.  I like your use of the Trinitarian Sharp’s Rule to refute the Trinitarian misuse of John 20:28.  However, Sharp’s Rule is not accurate.  It is just another of those ‘rules’ made up by Trinitarians for Trinitarians.

Lesson B includes the following:

For this part of the analysis, we need to remember that there are exceptions where the article (‘the’) may be used at random as seen in part A. above.  So we are trying to find how John intends the lack of an article with a noun (like god, man, cave, etc.).  Such nouns must be “count nouns.”  That means, usi…[Read more]

The words ego eimi formed a phrase that was in very common use by first century Christians and Jews and in New Testament scriptures. It was certainly not understood (by Jews or Christians) as declaring one’s Godhood! If it could have been understood that way, we can be sure the Jews would have never applied it to themselves (as they did so f…[Read more]

Tigger wrote:

“’Form’ may be used to translate morphe, but it also must be understood that it is restricted to the outward appearance of something, not to its essence.”

Kerwin: “That is incorrect as neither a servant or God has an outward form.”

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As even many trinitarian Bible scholars admit:

“Morphe is instanced from Homer onwards…[Read more]

And exactly what does ‘being in the form of God’ in Phil. 2:6 mean?  (Maybe it was discussed earlier and I missed it.)

According to the title of this discussion, this should have received prominent attention.

Here are some important NT Greek words found in that phrase:

being (huparchon) in the form (morphe) of god (theou – anarthrous gen…[Read more]

Matt. 6:12 – Jesus tells us in his example of a proper prayer to God to ask Him for forgiveness.

Tigger:  “Also I would like to know where the WT has ‘pushed off the Trinitarian doctrine to the 8th century’ as I believe I heard somewhere in the first 16 minutes of the video.”

EdJ: “Hi Tigger,

“Huh?

“Can you please re-work the structure of the words here so I can understand what you mean ???”

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<dir>Tigger: <span style=”font-size: small;”>“</span>Also I would like to know where the WT has ‘pushed off the Trinitarian doctrine to the 8th century’ as I believe I heard somewhere in the first 16 minutes of the video.”

</dir>EdJ: “Hi Tigger,

“Huh?

“Can you please re-work the structure of the words here so I can understand what you mean ???”…[Read more]

Tigger: “But as I have already stated, the words found in the 2 links I have given above are mine! I wrote them and I posted them from my own studies.”

EdJ: “Hi Tigger,

“Then post them here in bite size pieces so that all here can take the time to respond to them, OK?”

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Hi, Ed. I am nearing 80 years old, not…[Read more]

Tigger: “But as I have already stated, the words found in the 2 links I have given above are mine! I wrote them and I posted them from my own studies.”

EdJ: “Hi Tigger,

“Then post them here in bite size pieces so that all here can take the time to respond to them, OK?”

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Hi, Ed. I am nearing 80 years old, not…[Read more]

<dir>Tigger: “But as I have already stated, the words found in the 2 links I have given above are mine! I wrote them and I posted them from my own studies.”

</dir>EdJ: “Hi Tigger,

“Then post them here in bite size pieces so that all here can take the time to respond to them, OK?”

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Hi, Ed. I am nearing 80 years…[Read more]

“There was a member here named “jammin”, and he use to post words written by others.
And when we looked into those words and were questioning him about them
he would reply… …’why are you asking me I didn’t write it?’

“That is why I don’t bother to read ‘cut and paste’ jobs – copied from outside sources. (sorry UMB5 and Tigger)
However, I wi…

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There was a member here named “jammin”, and he use to post words written by others.
And when we looked into those words and were questioning him about them
he would reply… …’why are you asking me I didn’t write it?’

That is why I don’t bother to read ‘cut and paste’ jobs – copied from outside sources. (sorry UMB5 and Tigger)
However, I wi…

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After 16 minutes of time-wasting book promotion and anti-JW blather in the video of the OP, I quit watching.  For those of you who have listened all the way through (or read all 140+ pages of Bowman’s book), here is my rebuttal to Bowman’s rebuttal as found in various of his anti-JW books.

If you had the time and energy to listen (or read) all…[Read more]

After 16 minutes of time-wasting book promotion and anti-JW blather in the video of the OP, I quit watching.  For those of you who have listened all the way through (or read all 140+ pages of Bowman’s book), here is my rebuttal to Bowman’s rebuttal as found in various of his anti-JW books.

If you had the time and energy to listen (or read) all…[Read more]

DavidL: “It seems the ground work for deception has already been accomplished by the reliance of corrupted manuscripts in modern translations, that brings confusion and raises doubt in the overall authority of Scripture itself..”

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There is no doubt that the first Christians were Jews who attended and…[Read more]

kerwin,

So you won’t comment on my correction of your mistaken post above?

Psychos (‘cold’) is not a count noun.  We cannot properly say in this verse, ‘it was a cold’ or ‘it was the cold.’  Nor can you make it plural (‘it was colds‘).  So it is not a proper example for John 1:1c.

Kerwin wrote:

“Tigger,

‘As explained before, a nominative noun modified by a genitive (an “of” noun) are included in “prepositional” constructions and are, therefore, improper examples.’

“So according to you a proposition or a genitive noun causes difficulties.

“The thing is that archiereus translated high priest is not a genitive noun. The gen…[Read more]

Kerwin,

I have been waiting for you to (1) find your elementary error in your last post., and (2) reveal your error here.

Will you do that?