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- August 25, 2009 at 8:58 pm#142308thetruthParticipant
Seek the Scriptures Nick and see. Quit taking from Christ and the Scriptures. You are no better then Kerwin in that you twist the Scriptures to believe as you want, and not what they say. Turn to Christ before it is to late.
August 25, 2009 at 8:56 pm#142305thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2008,15:27) HI E,
Despite your cry that it it is justified you are only revealing the same bias as the authors.
Do not add to what is written.
The Scriptures also say do not take away.“I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.” – Revelation 22:18-19
Since you take of away from his Holiness then you are taking from this book also. Come to Christ, the Savior, before it is to late.
August 25, 2009 at 8:50 pm#142301thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2008,11:41) Hi WJ,
Jesus is not written in the manuscripts.
Many such as yourself would like it there.
We do not add to what is written do we?
So then you do not believe Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah? You do not believe that, as the Scriptures say, that Jesus is our Savior? You do not believe that Jesus died for our sins? You do not believe in the entire New Covenant? The manuscripts that tell of Christ. You do not believe in what Isiah says about Christ in the 52 chapter? Immanuel is a falsehood also I guess too? No you do not add you take away. You take Christ out of the Word, by doing that you are worshiping a false god. Without Jesus their is no salvation, and you obviously do not believe in who he is.August 25, 2009 at 8:38 pm#142294thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2008,16:59) Hi E,
NIV translates
Jn12.40 as
” 41Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him.”In which manuscript is the name JESUS found??
NONE
Talk about twisting Scripture.
“He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts,
nor turn—and I would heal them.” John 12:40
then 41 John says, “Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him.”Now since Jesus is the Messiah and Isaiah speaks of the Messiah several times then he spoke of Christ, and saw his glory in his life. Also all through out the manuscripts Jesus' name is mentioned. We have his name Immanuel, which means God with us. Which is true since Christ is God in the flesh, as the Scriptures say he is. Please try and not twist the Scriptures, but do as they say. So to answer your question all of them do.
August 25, 2009 at 8:19 pm#142286thetruthParticipantKerwin why will you not answer me?
Nick the trinity of the Scriptures, though you do not believe, and therefore worship a false god.
August 21, 2009 at 8:57 pm#141721thetruthParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2009,18:35) The Truth wrote: Quote The Bible is full of evidence showing the truth of the Trinity
That would be false evidence. The Trinity concept is not even a Hebrew concept but was devised over time in the Catholic Church. We even have records where the debates that determined its evolution were settled in councils. Of course once it was settled people went back and looked for scriptures they believed supported it. There are still debates among the various sects about what the definition of Trinity is.
Does God know everything?
Does Jesus?
Can God be tempted by evil?
Can Jesus?
There are many questions one ask themselves when testing the spirit of what they believe.
The only falseness would be from you. The fact that you do not believe in Christ as the Son of God, nor in the Trinity does not make it false. I havre shown you Titus but you do your usal and ignore it. Why? Why do you refuse to answer questions? No matter, the fact remains that you do not believe in nor follow what the Scriptures say and therefore worship a false god.
John says, ” In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.” – John 1:1-3
Now when we do what you refuse to do, which is why you do not understand Scripture, and cross reference we see in Revelation John says, “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Wait, The Word was God, and it is Christ name. How can that be? Simple they are one. Oh and before you try it Kerwin both “Words” are the same Greek word, and refer to Christ.
He also says, “Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.” – 1 John 2:22-23 That it what you do. You deny Christ, and try to make him a mere man. You say he is only a man, and not even the Son of God, but just a son of God. You say he is just a man like me or you. Well I am not Christ and neither are you. We will never be Christ, we strive to be like him, but we will never make it.Jude says, “They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.” – Jude 1:4b. How can Jesus be our “only Sovereign and Lord” and God be are only Lord if they are not one in the same.
Peter says, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” 2 Peter 2:10-11 then we see in Jude “to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.” – Jude 1:25 Wait again we have Peter saying Christ is the Savior and Jude saying God is our Savior. Who is lying Kerwin? Oh wait I mean who was mistranslated or misinterpreted? Aren't those your standard arguments for when you do not agree?
You also have in Revelation where Christ calls himself the Alpha and Omega, as God does. Which is impossible if they are not one, in that you can not have two Alpha and Omegas. Then you have the references to him being “King of kings, and Lord of lords”. Notice the capitalization, and that they are different Greek words. There is just a little of the evidence in the Scriptures, showing the Trinity, not even mentioning the worship of Christ and how we are to only worship God. Now it is your turn to spread you false doctrine, and spread the word of your false god.
I pray for you that you will find the True God, and his Son.Side note I did not speak of your “temptation” argument because I have proven it wrong so many times, but since it is your only argument you keep with it. I will say that with your argument of Jesus was tempted then he can not be the Messiah. In order to be tempted he would have had to had a “sinful nature” and therefore not perfect. Why would you want to call our Savior sinful and therefore not perfect?
August 19, 2009 at 8:01 pm#141486thetruthParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2009,18:12) Quote (katjo @ Aug. 18 2009,19:44) I just know I believe in the trinity because my bible tells me so.
That is strange because I believe you told us that the trinity was not explicitly mentioned in the bible but that you concluded it was there by the evidence, which I call conjecture.
Hello Kerwin. The Bible is full of evidence showing the truth of the Trinity. It is your failure to understand and search the Scriptures that makes it so you are unable to understand the truth. You follow a false god, and for that I pray for you. Christ was and is the true Son of God, not just a mere man as you believe. I have shown you the “I AM” verses, that you continue to ignore. I have shown you in Titus:“and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior, – Titus 1:3
To Titus, my true son in our common faith:
Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.” – Titus 1:4So by your thinking of these verses then God is our Savior and as well as Christ. Which is it? Who is the Savior? Not to mention the many times the Trinity is referred to in the letters of John. Including the book of Revelation, but of course you believe that anything that does not go with your beliefs is a misinterpretation, or mistranslation. Funny how it is always what others think that is wrong and not you.
Kerwin, examine the Scriptures and see the light and come out of the darkness of your false god. The Scriptures are the light as we who live in Christ are to live in light. With the way you believe that Jesus was just a man then he would have needed a Savior himself. He would have needed someone to die for him. Oh how I hope you see the light before it is to late.
March 11, 2009 at 10:30 pm#124728thetruthParticipantI see the differences, but Jesus also calls himself God. God is three separate but yet one. That is part of his awesomeness. The Scriptures are quite clear regarding this. Jesus said, “If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” Jesus answered: “Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.” – John 14:7-10. We have Jesus about to be stoned by the Pharisees because he is claiming to be God. We have Thomas in John saying to Christ after the resurrection, “…My Lord and my God!” – John 20:28. Jesus does not tell him to stop blaspheming. Instead he backs up his statement by saying, “…”Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:29 Why didn't he correct Thomas unless he is who Thomas says he is? IN the Great Commission we are told to “…go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,…” Matthew 28:19. In the “name of”, not the “names of”. Singular, not plural names, meaning one with three different names.
How does Jesus worship God the Father you ask. Simple, he is not God the Father. He is separate, from the Father, but one with God. I have heard it best put this way. The chemical configuration of H2O can be broken into three parts. Liquid, Solid, Vapor all make ups of H2O, yet entirely different. Three different names, one makeup. So is God. You have God the Father, God in the flesh, and God the Holy Spirit. Three separate yet one GOD. The Father is not the Flesh, not The Spirit the Father, yet all are God. So as the solid (ice) is not the liquid (water), and the vapor (steam) is not the solid (ice). Yet they are all H2O. It really is not as difficult as one tries to make it.March 11, 2009 at 1:47 am#124688thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,12:55) Hi Thetruth,
Are you not one who obeys Jesus and worships his God?
Jn4,Jn20I worship the One true God. Do you? The Scriptures say every knee will bow and tongue confess Jesus as Lord. Do you? The Scriptures have both God the Father and Christ calling themselves, Lord, Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, King of kings, and Lord of lords, and the I am. So the question is why do you continue to disobey Jesus? We have Thomas calling Jesus God. Yet you call him a mere man. Why? I know why Kerwin does, but why do you ignore Scripture? We have John throughout his gospel, and epistles calling Jesus the Word, and Revelation telling us that is Jesus, yet you do not believe the Scriptures. Why do you not love our Lord Jesus? Why is he not good enough for you? Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind as the Scriptures say. What a God to who loves us that he would send a part of himself here to die for us. Us who do not deserve it. Why do you try to take from his love. The love he gives freely to all who choose to except it? Why do you take this awesomeness from him? You have him sending some guy to save us. The Scriptures say he came here himself, as Christ. That is true awesomeness, in that it is indescribable the amount of love that took. Why take that from him? Do you not believe in the Scriptures? Are you like Kerwin and say some verses are correct, while those that do not go along with your doctrine are, “misinterpreted” and/or “mistranslated”? I hope you are smarter then that.
Peace be to you, and Christ our Lord's LoveMarch 11, 2009 at 1:30 am#124687thetruthParticipantWild olive read and seek Scripture truth for yourself, seek out someone who believes in the Scriptures, all the Scriptures, talk with someone who has fellowship in Christ with other Christians, and take what Kerwin says with a grain of salt, just as you should any of us. Pray and it will be revealed to you from our Lord, Jesus Christ. Kerwin is a good man, do not get me wrong. He however, has Scripture issues. You should never take one person's opinion as truth. Seek the opinions of others also, and of a good Bible teaching church. That I am afraid is something my friend Kerwin does not believe in. When was the last time you were in church Kerwin? I think all here would like to know, since character is part of the issue.
March 6, 2009 at 1:57 am#124321thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,12:01) Hi The truth
You say
“Read John 3:16-17, God did not send one of his sons, but his one and only Son. You want us to be like Jesus, because if he was not just a man, then your entire doctrine falls apart. You would not be able to become perfect and a god, as you want to be. You would have to admit that Jesus is God in the flesh, as Scriptures clearly say,.. ”So if Scripture says GOD WAS IN CHRIST[2Cor5] how do you read this?
Was God in God?
Yes and no. God the Father is part the Godhood. Jesus, God in the flesh is part of the Godhood. The Holy Spirit is part of the Godhood. The Scriptures speak clearly about who Jesus is, not was but is. There are I believe the number is, over 20 references to who Jesus is. You and people like Kerwin use one. Hmmm….I think I will go along with the Scriptures not you two.I read all of 2 Corinthians chapter 5 and saw no where where it specifically said that, “GOD WAS IN CHRIST” as you would have it say. I did see where Paul says, “So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.” 2 Corinthians 5:16. Oh wait that is probably a typo or something. Since you and Kerwin both want Jesus to be a mere human on earth as us. My question is though do you do it for the same reason as him? Do you too believe you can become a god like Kerwin? I ask just because I do not know you like I do Kerwin. Jesus calls himself God in several different places in several different ways throughout Scripture. We even in Matthew Jesus telling the apostles of the Trinity. “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” – Matthew 28:19. Notice it is name not names. A Basic Grammar class shows the answer here. I hope this helps you. Peace and Love from our Lord and Savior Jesus.
March 6, 2009 at 1:39 am#124316thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,12:22)
Hi thetruth,
Jesus called himself the Son of Man.
You say he was God in the flesh.
Is God the son of man?Jesus is man, but also God in the flesh. Read the Scriptures and your eyes will be opened and you will see the truth. Jesus was born of Mary, and was tortured, then crucified. Something one can only have happen if they are flesh. The Scriptures have Jesus calling himself the I am as God the Father does, the Alpha and Omega as God the Father does, and the King of kings and Lord of lords. The Greek “Kings” capital “K” is a different Greek word the the lower cases “kings”, as is Lord. Jesus called himself God, now either he is a lier, and therefore our entire Christian beliefs is false, or he is who he says he is. I am going to put my faith in Jesus you put your where ever you like.
March 5, 2009 at 8:34 pm#124257thetruthParticipantGene sorry if I am over stepping by bounds here, but Kerwin and I go way back. Please do not take this as stepping on your toes, it's just Kerwin makes me laugh, and yet feel sorry for him for his lack of faith, and knowledge in the Word. I really wish he would read the Bible for what it can do for him, not what he can use it for to puff himself up. You know what I mean? That being said. On to Kerwin:
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 06 2009,07:06) Gene wrote: Quote where did I say I desire God to use evil.
As they say actions speak louder than words and you are using the word “judge” to enable evil. “Enable” does not mean “use” but rather I am using it to mean is to make it possible for someone to do evil without resistance. Let’s say person A speaks a falsehood in the name of the Lord and so uses God’s name in vain and Person B rebukes Person A for doing that evil. Now Person C comes along and rebukes person B for being judgmental. Person C has now misused scripture to enable the evil action of Person A.
Unless Person B, you, misuses Scripture to rebuke Person A, who is actually speaking the truth. Making it Person B, you the one who is wrong and thus making Persons A and C correct. Wait maybe you are Person A, and Person C is one of your lemmings. Then Persons A and C are wrong. Of course, if Person B is not rebuking as Christ did, with love, mercy ,and compassion, but by their own definition, and therefor actually judging making him wrong. So which are you exactly, the one spreading falsehoods, the one judging, or the lemming? Oh wait that is right you take on all three most times. Look Kerwin is his own trinity. (Deceiver, Self righteous, and a Blind Follower)
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 06 2009,07:06)
I leave it to you to figure out which of the three individuals in my example performed an action that agrees with what God commands. I hope you prove my suspicions wrong and select the correct one. If not then hopefully you will learn in the future.That's right Gene. Follow the doctrines of Kerwin and you will go far. (Possible not where you want to go, but far.) The correct answer to your problem is not to answer it, because you will twist it to mean however you want it to as I have pointed out already. However, to give you an answer, Person B, if they are doing as Christ and not as you do. They are using Love, Compassion, and Mercy as Jesus and God the Father did throughout Scriptures. I have tried to explain this to you before, but when you lose an argument you just stop posting to me. Funny you have done that before also. My favorites, and Gene you touched on this also, how you will not answer a question given to you and how someone quotes you a Scripture and you act as if it never happened. Well next time your in Neverland tell Peter Pan and Wendy we said, “Hi.”
Thanks once again for the laugh Kerwin I can always count on you.
March 5, 2009 at 8:12 pm#124250thetruthParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2009,13:06) The Truth wrote: Quote No we should never ignore Scriptures, unlike my counter-part, Kerwin the Great. The Scriptures do not call us The Son, but adopted children of God.
Deception does you no favors but then you are deceived and so deceiving. You need to believe what scripture states which is that it was the Holy Spirit that is in him that declares that Jesus is the Son of God and that it is through faith, that Jesus is the human being God made King of everything in heaven and on earth, that that same Spirit declares his true disciples are sons of God. I do hope that one day you will stop loving the evil you do and so cry out to God for deliverance because that is when God will reveal the truth to you. If that day ever arrives for you. Until that day you will gather around one false teacher or another that is telling your itching ears what they want to hear. That is your choice and you will be held accountable for it.
I have no deception. The Scriptures call us adopted children. That is a problem you can not deal with. Mainly because it goes against you doctrine of falsehood. You my friend follow a false teacher “telling you itching ears what they want”. I show you Scripture and you ignore it for your false doctrine. You will not believe Scripture because of your false beliefs. You show only the part of Christ you want to follow. Those being condemnation, not love, compassion, and mercy. You say the Scriptures are wrong and mistranslated when they do not follow your doctrine. Anyone who disagrees with you, you insult saying they are, “evil” and “being led by the Devil”. Then say turn around and say you are not judging. LOL! You ignore word meanings, and try and twist them. You go and search on the internet for someone who agrees with you, then post their comments as your own. I do NO evil, but praise God that I get to do his work. I praise Jesus for knowing that your persecution makes me closer to him. Oh to have been there walking with him, how great that would have been, and greater is knowing that someday I will.
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The true ways of Jesus the Messiah are good for you and the false ways you choose to tread are harmful. Still it is up to you to choose the path to tread.My ways are the ways of Jesus the True Messiah, as the Scriptures say. Just because you choose not to believe Scriptures, does not make them wrong. You were not the inspired writer of the word. You are not an interpreter, but a false interpreter. You pick and choose Scriptures, then when someone shows you, you are wrong using Scriptures you say that it is “a misinterpretation”, or my favorite, “a mistranslation”. How hypocritical is it to use the Scriptures to, wrongly, make your point, then when someone else uses Scriptures say that the Scriptures are wrong? Do you not see yourself doing just that?
Read John 3:16-17, God did not send one of his sons, but his one and only Son. You want us to be like Jesus, because if he was not just a man, then your entire doctrine falls apart. You would not be able to become perfect and a god, as you want to be. You would have to admit that Jesus is God in the flesh, as Scriptures clearly say, thus making you have to worship him, as the Scriptures also say to do. You would have to show compassion, mercy, and love to those you dislike. Meaning you would not be able to route on the abortion clinic bombers, who also kill the innocent, but pray for them and love them. Not their actions but the fact that they are created by God also. So I will say as you said to me, “it is up to you to choose the path to tread.” Will you follow the Jesus of the Scriptures, or the Jesus of your own doctrine? Will you follow God's will or your own will? Free will isn't it great! You choose to follow God not him making you follow him like a mindless robot.Praise be to God the Father, his Son Jesus our Deliverer and Savior, and to the Holy Spirit, our Counselor. Three seperate yet One.
February 17, 2009 at 9:46 pm#121938thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2009,20:27) Hi the truth,
So we should ignore Gen6, Jb 1-2, 38?
Hi the truth,
So we should ignore Gen6, Jb 1-2, 38?No we should never ignore Scriptures, unlike my counter-part, Kerwin the Great. The Scriptures do not call us The Son, but adopted children of God.
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—
February 16, 2009 at 4:08 am#121704thetruthParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2009,21:34)
I tend to place the beatitude “blessed are they that hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled” above the rest as the fulfillment of that promise means that you have obtained all the rest. I also am convinced that you must believe that you can and and will stop sinning in this lifetime by the power of God that acts through the faith he gives you. If you so believe then you will adhere to the true gospel of King of King Jesus.Even though that is not what the Scriptures say. Hey Kerwin I thought you did not believe in Christ's Godhood. Why would you use one his Godly titles? Oh wait you left out the important “Lord of lords”, and it should read “King of kings”, since they are different words in the Greek, and written that way in the Scriptures. Oh well it's not like its the first time you've changed Scriptures for your purposes is it.
February 16, 2009 at 4:02 am#121703thetruthParticipantI have already said we are like adopted sons. Jesus is the only one called Son.
February 6, 2009 at 9:16 pm#120558thetruthParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2009,05:25) Hi TT,
You say
“We have example after example of Christ being the only Son of God.”
Jb38
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Gen6
1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Jb1
6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.Ps89
6For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?You have given examples of us, adopted sons. Note when speaking of Christ it is always capital “Son”, when speaking of us it is lower case “sons”. Singular and plural words are also used.
You have given examples of us, adopted sons. Note when speaking of Christ it is always capital “Son”, when speaking of us it is lower case “sons”. Singular and plural words are also used for Son and sons. Here is an example for you though:“…At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” – Matthew 3:16b-17
*notice again the singular capital “Son”
February 6, 2009 at 9:10 pm#120557thetruthParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 27 2009,05:37) TT………….Remember when Jesus said to Lazarus's sister ” Did i not tell you that if you only believed you would see the glory of God”, now notice what He said (immediately) after the statement, Father the only reason I said that was so they would believe that you sent me, now ask yourself why would Jesus have said that if He were GOD Himself, He said it because Had He not said that to the Father , It would appear He was allowing them to think He was the GOD that was going to raise Lazarus. So he made it clear to GOD the FATHER why He said it. love and peace to you and yours…………….gene
It is quite simple. He was showing them God's glory. He is part of the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit, or Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Christ refers to himself as God many times, and is referred to as God. So when he calls himself the I am, the Alpha and Omega, or when Thomas calls him God and he does not tell him different he is not calling himself God. How about when the Pharisees are going to stone him, because they believe him to be calling himself God. Then you have him being called Emmanuel, God with us. King of kings and Lord of lords, notice the first “Lord”, it is the Greek word for the name of God.
February 6, 2009 at 9:00 pm#120555thetruthParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 28 2009,07:34) Jesus taught in his sermon on the mountain mentioned in Matthew 5 that the individuals who hungered and thirsted for righteousness would be filled. Since God desires his people are truly righteous as He is righteous it is self evident that the promise God is speaking through Jesus is a promise to obtain a righteousness that is like God’s which is to say one stops sinning. Now the question to you is then do you believe God when he tells you that if you believe Jesus is the Promised One you will stop sinning. If you do believe Jesus is the Promised One then you will believe he is Lord and thus you will obey his commands. If you obey Jesus’ commands because you believe he is Lord then God will be faithful and do as he promises as long as you persevere in the faith. That is the new covenant God has made with man and that covenant is sealed with the blood of His Son Jesus Christ.
Aw, once again you try and show your superiority and yet fail. Once again you say something with no Scriptural proof, just the doctrine of Kerwin. The idea that we will just “poof” stop sinning is a fairy tale my friend. Everyone continues to sin, willfully, by coming to temptation, or unknowingly like speeding. We are human, and therefor have sin in us, do to the fall of man. The reason you go along with your, we can stop sinning as humans, goes with your theory of who Jesus is. You do not even believe Jesus is Lord, just a man. It fits in to your doctrine that since the only way he could be a human and be the Savior is because God made him not sin. Which is true to a point, he was and is without sin, however we are not. Some of the closest people to God sinned. David, a man after God's own heart, Peter denied Christ, and Thomas doubted his resurrection. Then you have Paul and what he says in Romans:
“I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.” – Romans 7:15-20 Wait did I miss something Paul for got to say he sins no longer. Oh that's right that was Kerwin who sins no longer.
Jesus also gave us a “map” of who we are to pray and in that “map” he says: “Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.' For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:12-15 Why do we need delivered from temptation, if we are not going to be able to sin anymore?
Then we have as you pointed out that Jesus says, “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.” – Matthew 5:6. You missed something there Kerwin my friend. The verse says, “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst…”, not who have received. We are always to grow closer to our Lord, and try to become more like Christ, but we will never achieve that goal. As long as we are in these sinful bodies, we will sin. Its just a fact. That is why we, those of us who are not perfect like you, pray all the time asking God for his forgiveness. Do we strive not to sin? Yes, I would hope. Do we still sin after coming to the Lord? Unfortunately yes we do. - AuthorPosts