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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,11:44)T8, You are blinded to the scriptures that speak of Jesus as God over all. You and your buddies seem to have a common spirit that wants you to boldly say that Jesus is not the mighty God over all.KATHIJn 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my b…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 23 2013,12:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,12:22)Quote If he is a son, then he was conceived.  Mike,Read:Luke 10:21 1 In that same hour, he rejoiced in the Holy Ghost, and said: I confess to thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hidden these things from the wise and prudent,(LIKE WHAT YOU PRETEND YUO…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2013,09:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2013,20:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,13:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2013,12:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2013,21:43)Which part do you want scriptures for?This part:He was an entity of the same kind as Himself, within Him and then born/begotten/brought forth from out of…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,13:26)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,06:46)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,06:34)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:28)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:21)T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the S…[Read more]

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    abeGal 4:25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. Gal 4:27 For it is written: “Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no l…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Feb. 23 2013,11:20)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,04:27)abeGe 15:5 He took him outside and said, “Look up at the heavens and count the stars—if indeed you can count them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.” Ge 15:6 Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness. Ge 15:7 He also said to him, “I a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2013,04:18)t8, TerrariccaIf i am interpreting things according to my personal view, how come I have so much unity with other Christian's? Think about it. It isn't like I am telling you something new if most Christians have been believing this since the early church.For instance, it seems that:Most Christians think Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:45)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,19:52)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,06:59)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2013,18:52)The word “EL-o-heem” defines as:1. God2. Angels3. Judges4. LeadersSo then when Jehovah says there are no elohim besides Him, He must be speaking EMPHATICALLY -…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,06:34)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:28)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:21)T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the Spirit and Jesus did not have the authority to send it until he went away, J…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,06:32)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,05:59)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.Kyou are not truthful ,why you only use the first part of the scripture ???are you afraid to com…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    2bemy quote ;;Quote I MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR YOU ,SHOW ME IN SCRIPTURES THAT WHAT I SAID HIS AGAINST THE TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHETS ,OF CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES ,IF YOU CAN NOT DO THAT THEN WHAT I HAVE SAID MUST BE THE TRUTH OF GOD ,you answer ;;Quote No. I have already.you have done nothing of a sort ;because if you did you would have shown me ;that…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    2BEEQuoteI agree that Christ was sent 'from God', 'from Heaven'. (The Holy Spirit, Son).Quoteso you think that Christ his not the son of God but his holy spirit ?show me some scriptures for it your answer ;I have.sorry but I can not see them

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,01:36)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,03:24)2beeQuote “Can a man born of human parents save themselves or anyone else from sin and the curse of dead that lays on all men since Adam?”Yes,Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him— Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly, no payment i…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:10)T,Quote Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.I have not looked at the Greek behind these words but this version does noes not support the claim that Jesus was the first created by Jehovah.  “over” gives the context and Jesus was given authority over all things in heaven…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:13)T,Quote Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’“A man”, not an angel.Kyou are not truthful ,why you only use the first part of the scripture ???are you afraid to comment on the second part ??? “”” has surpassed me because he(Christ the man) was…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,01:21)T,Quote Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”The “what” is the Spirit and Jesus did not have the authority to send it until he went away, John 16:7.Kwhat “spirit” are you talking about ???

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,00:58)T,Quote Mt 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. Do you believe Jesus was conceived in Mary as a gift of the Spirit or that h…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Feb. 23 2013,02:34)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2013,04:57)abeEph.4:12     For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the   EDIFYING   of the   BODY   of Christ:I see it this way ;For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry(Christ will), for the   EDIFYING   of the   BODY(members of the cong…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2013,09:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2013,20:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,13:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2013,12:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2013,21:43)Which part do you want scriptures for?This part:He was an entity of the same kind as Himself, within Him and then born/begotten/brought forth from out of…[Read more]

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    terraricca replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2013,21:09)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 22 2013,11:36)T,Quote can a man born of human parents save themselves or anyone else from sin and the curse of dead that lays on all men sins AdamA man that shares our flesh and blood is the only one that can save his brethren from sin.Hebrews 2:14King James Version (KJV)14 Forasmuch…[Read more]

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