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[sunnyb]

interesting tid bit to throw out there being a physics geek…In I John 1:5 it says that …God is light… and other places he is represented by bright lights. The reason that nothing (anything contating information) cannot travle faster than the speed of light or the speed of light, is that it would have infinite energy, no time, and would contain all information in universe. (omnicent) Interesting isnt it? Kinda describes God. Just a fun tid bit though.
Sunnyb

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hey,
THe reason that it is talking of mary’s bloodline has to do with the conception of Christ. Joseph did not have a part in it, and wasnt even married to Mary until after the conception. Who was the bible talking about when it said "of whom was born Jesus"? –Mary, not joseph.
yes it is weird that the translations all get this mistranslated but that is not really all that surpising, being such a male dominate society as when the bible was translated.
sunnyb

[sunnyb]

Hello everyone,

I don’t think that we need by any means keep people from committing suicide by inducing fear motivation…. what option does that give them then?—Hell or being miserable the rest of their lives? Instead the truth of the word should be taught to them, if they see the love and grace that God has given them and what he has done for us, no-one would want to kill themselves anymore. By the way, the bible does not even say that if you commit suicide that you would go to Hell anyway.
In Matt 16:26 soul is “psuke” a.k.a. breath life. Its quite logical…why have all kinds of cool stuff if you are pushing up daisies and cannot enjoy it? John 5:29 is talking of the resurrection of the just and unjust. This is the second resurrection for the people who were not born again, and where everyone is judged. The just get life and the unjust get to return back to Hades—Hell—nonexistence—(gravedom). The lake of fire is for the Devil and his “little helpers” (what I call devil spirits), and quite possibly people “born again” of the devil. (Seed). I will have to look up Luke 16:23-31 as I am not familiar with it.

The main point is that God does not use Fear Motivation. He loved us first; He gave his only begotten son, all when we were enemies of Him. That is motivation enough to do well and live a good life, not to avoid everlasting torture. Again I ask that you look at the paper that I gave link to earlier as it goes into much greater detail of this subject. Fear motivation is saying that God was too nice and that we need to help him out, and get people scared into doing the right thing. Well, God is not wrong, fear motivation is, and I think if the truth of the bible were told to most people it would really help some people who think that God is a mean guy, and people would do the right thing because they wanted to out of love for what God has done for them.

Thanks again for taking the time to read this—
sunnyb

[sunnyb]

opps, I forgot the ‘L" on the end of the link…use this one:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
thanks sunnyb

[sunnyb]

Hello all, I am sry that people are having a hard time downloading the file that I said was interesting and would help on this subject…The file is a PDF file and needs adobe reader to open it. PDF is a standard internet file, and if you go to the link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.htm
you can download it for free. This should make it so you can open up many other documents without a problem not to mention the one I mentioned. Sry for the inconvience.
Thanks again and God Bless….sunnyb

[sunnyb]

hey childofthelight, I believe if you look at the link that I supplied in a previous post and look at chapter 2&4 of the post, you will find what the unquenchable fire and everlasting punishment is.  Thanks for your time and thoughts,
sunnyb

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IN your list of how to be saved you state that we must do alot of things, and at the end you state that we must  remain faithful for the rest of our lives and carry the cross daily…..Well I surely hope that you mispoke here because we were saved by grace and believing Rom 10:9-10, nothing we ever did will ever make us deserve what we got and nothing we can ever do will either.  Once you are born again it is permanent just like you could not be reborn physically, so if you descided to do nothing with it the rest of your life, and be a "couch potato" for God, then you would still be saved.   Having said this it would definatly be the wrong choice but it would not put you being saved at risk.  We should act out of love for what God has done for us and be the men and women for God that he has called us to be, but if we descide not to it does not mean that you are no longer a son of God.  
  Further more I do not understand how you can still say that we need the babtism of John (water) when in Rom. 10:9-10 it clearly states how to get born again and it makes NO refrence to water at all….it only states that you must BELIEVE.  I understand that water babtism was carried out in the gospels and that if it is done now it does not hurt anything, but the bible clearly states that we must "CONFESS with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, and thou SHALT be saved."  (not if you do that and some neat stuff with water!)  the versus that follow give the reasons that this is an acceptable means of getting saved……"whosoever believeth shall not be ashamed" ect.  
  The only reason that I am taking the time to talk about you post was because of the clause that we have to keep "acting good".  That is "work"in bible terms, and the bible clearly states that we were saved by grace and not by work lest any man should boast.  I do not think that water babtism is harmful at all, just not necessary because if we believe Rom. 10:9-10 then we are already saved.

Have a great day!  
sunnyb

[sunnyb]

hey all again,
I just found a really good article on the web about “Hell”. it is very through and worth reading:
http://www.cffm.org/download/ihapfet.pdf
I think that if you are interested in the subject like me you will appreciate all the work that was done in this paper. that is it…

[sunnyb]

hey all,
  T8 thanks for the great work you did on the subject, I think you hit it on the head using what you are supposed to use….the word.  
  Echad when I said seed of the serpant I meant the ones who worsip the devil…the equivalient to being born again….I am not familiar with Arnold Murrays teaching on it.  
  Thanks all….it is good to know that some people think and care enough to know that people are not going to suffer for eternity.  Nice having a loving God isnt it?

[sunnyb]

In the first chaper of matthew there is the genealogy of Mary.  This is very easy to get except for verse Matt 1:16 "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband (greek: andra, aramai: gavra) of Mary…"  there is confusion here because of the way andra was translated here.  it should have been father.  There are two Josephs, one whose father is Heli (luke 3:23) …he is the husband of mary and the other joseph whose father was Jacob…the father of Joseph(the father of mary).  

  Hope this helps…bless you!

[sunnyb]

in I John 1:5, the bible says that “God is light and in him is no darkness at all”. I cannot figure out how then we can attribute a place of suffering for anything other than the spirits under lucifers control and people's spirits born of lucifers seed. We are basically come in this life to make a descison as to wether we would like to be with God for eternity or not. If we did descide aginst it then shouldnt we just not exist? (gravedom….a word that comes from the greek words for Hell) if God were to punish us for eternity for not wanting to be with him wouldnt that be fear motivation? isnt fear not light? then that cant possibly be God….That would be like asking if you would like to play pool and if you did not then I would break your legs…wouldnt you call that fear motivation? I believe (speaking from experience) that if you study the words for Hell (hades , geena , and shehole ) (strongs #'s in brackets) that you will conclude that what most get is gravedom…non existance. seed of the serpant and the spirits of lucifer get suffering and the lake of fire. I would be interested to hear what you have to say in response…I have looked at alot of the content of this website and am impressed with the large content of hard work in the area of rightly dividing the Word of God. (II tim 2:15) either way this site has blessed me and in return I hope that i am not wasting anyone's time. God bless and happy studying!

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