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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2006,22:13)Quote Yes.. at the time of John 1:1 the word was WITH God. Though at some point He was brought forth from the Father. Hi SscottProceding from God dosnt mean having his beginning or origin from God.Jn 8:42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I **proceeded forth** and came…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi sscott, The Word was WITH Godnot IN GodYes.. at the time of John 1:1 the word was WITH God. Though at some point He was brought forth from the Father.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2006,06:21)Quote Yes. The Father forsaking the Son on the cross is a huge problem for the Trinity Doctrine. The Trinity Doctrine states that God is One Being yet made of Three Distinct Persons. If one of the members of the Trinity is not there then you do not have God because God is one which is made up of…[Read more]

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    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 14 2006,21:40)Is 1:18,Just in case you missed it, I asked this question on page 14 of the “Jesus Christ Is God” thread:Quote Why do you say that sscott's questions are only appropriate for a modalist? Do you not refer to the “one” god that you worship with singular pronouns such as “he”, “him”, or “himself”? Or, is it…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 11 2006,21:42)Quote Labels come in so handy. By labeling others one no longer has to try to understand their view or search the scriptures. SscottThen why didnt you say something like this to the Arians for their constant use of the label Trinitarian? :)I don't know anyone on here that labels their self as an Arian.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,11:54)sscott.I have considered those verses and to be honest they do not prove your point.“for I proceeded forth and came from God;”“I came out from God.””I came out from thee.”I believe that you are reading something that isn’t there perhaps because of your own Unitarian bias.It simply means that Christ was wi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:29)sscott. The last post was for NH but you posted before my reply.Quote Can I post 5 questions I posted on another site to get explanations of how they fit with the Trinity Doctrine? You are welcome to post whatever you please. This forum is for you also.Ok..I'll start a new thread.

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:16)sscottQuote If you can explain the scriptures I posted then I would be glad to listen to you. If you can only ignore the scriptures posted and quote other scriptures then you might as well just go talk to a wall. As I mentioned to you before I will address your concerns.Now you explain Isaiha 9:6Isa 9:6…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:08)Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. The scripture here is referring to Christ as God. He is referred to by all the names…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,05:46)sscottQuote “The everlasting Father, “Is Jesus the Everlasting Father Cult Buster?Yes or No will do. Who is Isaiha 9:6 referring to?Who was born?Whose name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace? Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son…[Read more]

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    Quote They have been indoctrinated by their Arian cult.Labels come in so handy. By labeling others one no longer has to try to understand their view or search the scriptures.

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,05:17)WJ postedQuote Christ truly is the mediator between God and man. But I dont stop at Jesus just being the mediator between the man.He is and was God.I Tim 3:16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,04:52)There seems chronic dyslexia happening here.Can't you understand!John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.THE WORD WAS GOD THE WORD WAS GOD THE WORD WAS GOD THE WORD WAS GOD (Repetition may help with your dyslexia)John 1:14 And the Word was made…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 11 2006,00:23)Quote As it is written, “For just as from one torch many fires are lighted, but the light of the first torch is not lessened by the kindling of many torches, so the Word, coming forth from the Word-Power of the Father, has not divested of the Word-Power Him who begat Him”.Hi SscottWhere is this…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 10 2006,06:58)Come out of the Watchtower and be free from this cult. :O Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Is that what you say when you don't…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 10 2006,06:31)I hope that you are not willfully blind NH.Open your eyes this time around.Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohiym-plural) created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:26 And God (Elohiym-plural) said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: H430אלהים'ĕlôhîymel-o-heem'Plural of H433; gods in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cult Buster @ Dec. 06 2006,06:30)Quite often when people try to demote their God Christ to that of a created being, they confuse Christ's mission as Messiah with His substance. His substance being God Himself. There is abundant scriture to prove this as we have already seen. His mission was to temporarily lay aside His own divine power and…[Read more]

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    Charity,The reason you don't understand the scriptures can only be two reasons… one … you either don't have the Spirit… or two… you have wandered so far into error and deception you can no longer read the Word and understand what it means.

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    Here is another thread I was hoping to get a response from someone who believes in the Trinity.John 5:26 says:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,Why does the Son need to have life granted to Him by the Father?

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    thought I would bump this since no one else replied. I would like to hear an explination from someone who believes the Trinity.

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