Quote (david @ Dec. 27 2006,09:11)JOB 38:4-7“Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell , if you do know understanding. Who set its measurements, in case you know, Or who stretched out upon it the measuring line? Into what have its socket pedestals been sunk down, Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars joyfully cried o…[Read more]

I don't seen any scriptures that state angels existed before the 7 days of creation…before the “beginning”.

Quote (sscott @ Dec. 26 2006,23:51)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:45)Hi sscott, fair enough. Gen 1 encompasses eternity too.1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.Eternity?…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:45)Hi sscott, fair enough. Gen 1 encompasses eternity too.1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.Eternity? Or 7 days. Gen 1,2 about the first 7 days.

1 In the beginning God created the heavenS and the earth.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:30)Hi sscott, Why should life begin at Genesis1?God and spiritual creation didn't begin then did it?That seems to be time the VISIBLE creation began.Gen 1″ 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:04)Hi sscott, Jb 38″4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7When the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,22:48)Hi ST, The beginning “of creation” is adding to the Word. God and His family of Sons and angels existed prior to physical creation as shown in Jb 38. We are part of the last plan of God it would seem.Where does it show that?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 25 2006,00:41)Actually I'm going through the other trinity threads and as I find a scripture I post it and add my comments/interpretation. I hope to sort them out later and classify them into seperate lists of scriptures; those that seem to support trinity, another list that seem to disprove it, and ones that can go…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 25 2006,02:21)Hi sscott:I know you addressed Nick, but if I may say that according to JFB commentary on crosswalk.com study tools, the oldest manuscripts omit the clause: “I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last; and” for Rev. 1:11.The NIV does not read this way. I hope this helps.Thanks. I just went and looked it up…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 24 2006,13:04)First thing I need to make it clear I'm not part of the administration of this site and with that said what I'm doing may be against some rules. If so I accept whatever discipline needs to be assigned to me.This seems to be the hottest topic going and worth discussion. But with the other threads on this…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 24 2006,18:06)Hi Sscott, There is none before and none after God in anything. There is none before and none after the Son under God in terms of creation.so who do you think is saying rev 1:11?

Quote Jn 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,Jn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 18 2006,18:32)Hi sscott, Yashua is the firstborn son.He will be the last and only Son of man when all his sheep are gathered into Him.So you don't think that “First and the Last” is the same as “Alpha and Omega”?

Quote (sscott @ Dec. 18 2006,16:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,06:34)Quote The Rev 1:8 verse might be the Father Speaking.Notice Rev 1:4Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,06:34)Quote The Rev 1:8 verse might be the Father Speaking.Notice Rev 1:4Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,04:23)t8polytheism….the worship of or belief in more than one deity, especially several deitiesIn your explanation you did exactly what cults do. You explained away the truth.Mighty God! Is there another? You want to say Jesus is mighty God and the Father is almighty God.How about this…Rev 1:8I am Alpha…[Read more]

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2006,01:14)Quote If the Son was given eternal lifehe cannot already have had eternal life? NH Show me in the scriptures where the Son was given eternal life!Inference is a poor witness to truth.  Go look up John 5:26 on blb.org. The word for life is Zoe:zoe {dzo-ay'} TDNT Reference Root Word TDNT – 2:832,290…[Read more]

Quote I Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)The Son is the source of Eternal life to all who believe because He has received life in Himself from the Father.26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted…[Read more]