Trinitarians and non Trinitarians both have things in common. Both can agree to the meaning of begotten, both disagree with procreation, I dont understand the Trinity so I prefer not to judge what I dont understand.

JA, I wasnt talking about WJ. WJ has never called me 'judgmental' and never said I was not welcome in a conversation.But let it drop please.

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2010,22:56)Also it is interesting that Jesus said that the end wouldn't come until the good news was heard over the whole world. Theres still the Middle East to go.Maybe the whole world means everywhere but the Middle East ?

Hi Irene, true, the Bible is all over the world, we even have JWs knocking on everyones door, tv evangelists (thats actually what I first became addicted to….just the scripture they were reading, nothing to do with who they were, how rich they were, or what they believed) I know another lady drawn to believe through that. God will draw people to…[Read more]

To all,I think the answer to this question is on the first few pages of this thread. Go back to page one, This is just like the word begotten, how long has it gone on, how many threads did the word begotten take over ?It's all in scripture.Mike, you and your friend must talk. You both use the same word arrogant (for JA), you both use the word…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 06 2010,10:37)Edj,I don't give two hoots about what you are saying. I acknowledge 'YHVH' but nothing more.'I AM' is a wonderful, beautiful, all encompassing name that perfectly says who God Almighty is.I am totally flummoxed why no one else can see the beauty of 'I AM', 'I Just Am', 'I Was, I am, I Always will be', God…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 06 2010,09:43)Which Scripture did you think Mark gave that was good? Hi Irene, it was this that I thought was good, a reply Mark gave to my question of what will happen to those who were really good hearted caring people who never heard the truth of God and Jesus…Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2010,22:56)Shimmer,  For when…[Read more]

Mark, good verse, thanks.And Irene, thankyou, God bless you both.

Quote Jesus will also say, to those that think so highly of themself. They will say did we not feed everybody and did we not do good, and Jesus will say:' I don't know you.”Hi Irene and Mark, Just pointing out that it actually says,'Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2010,08:20)Quote (Baker @ Oct. 01 2010,11:31)Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 30 2010,23:20)Peace to you too Irene. God the father, God the Son, or God the holy sprit.IMO  There are bigger fish to fry than to get hung up on this. for instance- the millions of babys in the medical dumps whose innocent blood screams out to god.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 03 2010,11:52)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 03 2010,15:55)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2010,13:58)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 28 2010,23:43)Mike, theres nothing at all wrong with delving into scripture,But Mike, if a few people here agree with you that doesnt prove it as truth,  theres a whole world, millions of people, If it was a…[Read more]

Hi WJ. Thought you weren't going to say anymore on this thread, haha.

Lu, all I did was post some facts on mormonism.  These are the points I was drawing attention to….Mormonism teaches that Jesus is a procreated being, the literal offspring of God the Father To support their view, Mormons appeal to John 3:16, which states Jesus is the “only begotten.” The Greek word used there is monogenes, which means “unique”…[Read more]

Thank you Irene.

Irene, NO, I dont agree with it at all, I was showing that mormans believe similar to what some other posters are trying to say.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2010,13:24)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2010,17:45)The only ones who believe God procreated another equal god are Mormans, what is spoken of here is mormanism.Actually Shimmer…that is not true at all.  We must be careful what we write and the accusations made.But this all sounds familiar,Taken from…[Read more]

The only ones who believe God procreated another equal god are Mormans, what is spoken of here is mormanism.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 29 2010,13:58)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 28 2010,23:43)Mike, theres nothing at all wrong with delving into scripture,But Mike, if a few people here agree with you that doesnt prove it as truth,  theres a whole world, millions of people, If it was a conversation where others could join in, fine, isn't that what forums are for ?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 02 2010,22:16)Shimmer, Well, like you said before, there is at least punishment, and there is at least like Jesus said “wailing  and knashing of teeth”. Even if it isn't forever, I do not want any part of it. I believe in God's son and love him and do my best to follow him. The bible tells me I will have no part of it.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Sep. 29 2010,00:08)It does'nt look good for those who turn against God- Rev20v10 “There they will be tortured day and night. forever and ever.”Hi Mark,The correct translation of this is…“The Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are the beast and the false prophet, and they…[Read more]