Stuart, have you ever been to church, just out of curiosity. I mean, to a church sermon, you would have right ? If so, how many times have you been, did you go to sunday school as a kid ?

Terrarica,Half of the people here are here because they believe they have some sort of "revelation' from God. They are cult starters, looking for 'followers'.Others are here because they are housebound or similarOthers are here searching for the 'truth' which they will not find because most here believe they have the 'truth' though all…[Read more]

JA, SORRY about that last post, what I was TRYING to say….That was a really good post you did.

ANd Stuart, God waits patiently for people like you. Yes God loves you. As TheodoreJ said.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 13 2010,00:56)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 12 2010,08:14)Stuart, sometimes I think that maybe God knew we all had our own opinions, in scripture anyone can make it say whatever they want. So maybe God left it like that, to see what each person would get from it, who knows ? Just something I thought of once. God also gave us a mind to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 13 2010,07:21)To all,Are you discussing the unseen worlds, spiritual realms?Hi Kerwin. It seems to be about that.

Mike, you should listen to the words of JustAskin, who, although often attacking people and annoying the heck out of them so it seems, in between all of that is truth. So pull it apart, it is there. You see, there are posters who have posts which appeal because they are kind, nice, welcoming, but mike, satan also appears as an angel of light. Is…[Read more]

JA, I thought you believed Jesus pre-existed in spirit too,Whats the actual debate here, Between you both ? And Who believes what exactly?

Its easy. The light is love, the dark is hate, and all the things which go with both… In my opinion, from what I understand.

Terrarica, God is a consuming fire.Deut 4:24 – “For Yahweh your God is a devouring fireHebrews 12:29 – “Our God is a consuming fire.Hebrews 10:27 ~-“But only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.”Give relief to you who are afflicted with us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his…[Read more]

Thanks Terrarica I see that. But Mike, what i'm saying here is what I believed before coming on this forum. I got put off and confused by some things here. But it's less confusing to believe truth as was known.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2010,12:32)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 12 2010,10:12)That could mean, that through the whole Jesus being born here, and Jesus overcoming, and Jesus being risen from the dead, giving a way to all who follow Him, then yes, of course, through Jesus through whom are all things, and through whom we exist, and continue to exist.But…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2010,12:35)No Shimmer.JA believes Jesus was awarded the title of “only begotten Son of God” as some sort of status symbol he earned.  He does not believe Jesus already WAS the only begotten Son of God who was sent down from heaven, dwelled as flesh for awhile, and then died and was raised.mikeSee thats where I would…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2010,12:04)Can you show me the scripture that says “spirit beings cannot procreate”?There is no scripture that says that. But it has to be something which cant happen. You need a body to pro-create something similar. God doesnt have a body. God is spirit, thats scriptural. Without a body, a spirit cant do things like…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2010,12:06)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 12 2010,10:03)Terrarica, correct, begotten in spirit when created before the earth, begotten again in the womb, and begotten again when risen up from the dead, each one being different,Shimmer!  Why did you leave the “begotten in spirit when created before the earth” out in your posts…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2010,11:58)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 12 2010,09:53)Anyway, all things came from God, yes.And what of the other part of 1 Cor 8:6?  Did all things come through Jesus?mikeMike, my bible says “One God the Father, form whom are all things,and for whom we exist, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and…[Read more]

The last 'begetting' being the most importantFirst spiritThen fleshThen risen to something higher and something different,

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 12 2010,11:58)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 12 2010,16:53)Hi Mike,I was only commenting on that part of your post, so I only quoted that part of your post..I had a teenage daughter, she would screw her face up confused and say 'what are you saying ? Your funny” she wasnt laughing. So, likewise, I wasnt laughing.  Had to let you…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I was only commenting on that part of your post, so I only quoted that part of your post..I had a teenage daughter, she would screw her face up confused and say 'what are you saying ? Your funny” she wasnt laughing. So, likewise, I wasnt laughing.  Had to let you know. And though I like to listen to JA, and see him as someone to help when…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 11 2010,22:14)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2010,06:24)Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 11 2010,01:42)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2010,21:04)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 10 2010,16:54)The character of god is that which killed Uzzah for only trying to help StuartHi Stuart,We have discussed this issue over and over again.You seem to be suffering from amnesia…[Read more]