Oh your welcome kathi, thanks. For ignoring me again. Did Jesus hold grudges ?

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 14 2010,15:46)We cannot comprehend it (seriously), and anyone who claims to is fooling themselves IMO.MarkHi Mark. I have to agree with you here…people think they figure it all out, Question..analyze God…they still havent figured out loving their neighbour, they still cant forgive, they still cant accept others..As I…[Read more]

Bod, what has been going on down here ? It seems Ed is avoiding you – sort of – saying you have personally attacked him, and its gone ignored.Whats your side of the story ?

Ed, what outrageous personal attacks ?

Interesting thoughts seekingtruth, that must of taken a while, and alot of thinking. (I let others do the thinking really) haha,

Mike, “Beloved, may we love one another, because the love is of God, and every one who is loving, of God he hath been begotten, and doth know God; he who is not loving did not know God, because God is love. In this was manifested the love of God in us, because His Son — the only begotten — hath God sent to the world, that we may live through…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2010,16:03)shimmerChrist is not a angel,if you go in the topic “preexisting data”you will find over 40 scriptures related to the preexisting of Christ,and he was not there before God because he was created by God,but all things were created trough him,so he is godly but that s all i can say ,because that s what is in…[Read more]

Thats right Kerwin. A Trinity with Jesus as an Angel, interesting how you were brought up an Adventist.From what I have seen in scripture, from what I have seen in the debates here, KJ spoke wisely in how he saw scripture concerning 'begotten' ….scripture says Jesus was begotten when he was risen from the dead, also when he was concieved, so…[Read more]

I have family who are Greek Orthodox, and Family who are Roman Catholic. Some of them pretty big in the church too. Priests and all. I know alot about Orthodox, I have studied it well. Theres a big difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church

The true original church is the Eastern Orthodox Church. The Roman Catholic Church broke away from them.

So, procreation, God having a body, thats sounding more mormanishI think Adventists and JWs have alot more closeness to mainstream christianity than mormans do. Mormans use a different book than just scripture. JWs and Adventists stick with scripture.

JA, I do vaguely recall saying something like that .Jesus as an Angel, if anyone will disagree with the idea, they also disagree with so many million Seventh day adventists, also so many million JWs, Mormans believe Jesus and Satan were brothers or something, not Angels but Gods..and they believe God has a body like us exactly, height and all,…[Read more]

JA, I did ? I dont recall begging you to go easy ?  (Mike iv got that confused look again, im not laughing at him !)I want to start up a couple of seperate threads, theres too many different things here.Jesus as an AngelJesus begotten when ? (Hang on, thats allready been done)etc…later I might.

What people are raised into is what they consider normal. All others are not. To be submissive to a husband is normal in one place, culture, religeon, but in another, the woman would never be like that… no man tells them what to do… With dress, wear muslim clothes in a western country and its just different. Wear revealing western clothes in a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2010,15:53)Are you ready to get into “begotten” yet?  Or should we come to a better understanding of each other on these other things first?Mike, ok, but im just taking an interest in what JA is saying at the moment. He has my attention, sorry, im still listening to you.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 13 2010,15:55)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 13 2010,10:17)Stuart, have you ever been to church, just out of curiosity. I mean, to a church sermon, you would have right ? If so, how many times have you been, did you go to sunday school as a kid ?I was taken to Sunday school as a child.  By the age of ten I had worked out that the…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 13 2010,19:08)shimmer!  I want to tell you that in order to really learn something about what is true and what is error.  When my Husband starts a study, He always first prays and ask God for His Wisdom.  Because of Georg I have learned a lot.  I don't listen to man.  I go back Scriptures only.  I don't search the inter…[Read more]

I will finish answering later.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2010,12:48)You must be strong in your faith and your beliefs Shimmer.  No one “taught” me about scriptures.  I read them all by myself – over and over.  I still do and will continue to do so as long as God permits.I think I should be re reading scripture. Do you read beginning to end, or just random books ?Quote Thank Go…[Read more]

Hi Mike.You said Quote But it sounds like you are saying that JA's poor excuse for Christian behavior is justified because of having to put up with my lies.  Is that what you're implying?  I'll wait for the re-post of his truthful words that you said I should adhere to.  Because believe me, it's the other way around.No. That wasnt what I was me…[Read more]