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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 11 2010,05:29)Thanks Shimmer! I hope you are enjoying your new place. We will be trying to finish this weekend.WJThanks, hope you enjoy your new place as well.

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 11 2010,13:31)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 11 2010,12:14)Bod, you I used to like, now I dont, sorry,  it takes time to get to know someone, especially on an internet forum such as this,You are nice to people you dont know, awfull to people you do, and FAKE to anyone who agrees with you, because it soon changes the moment they dont.Much…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 11 2010,18:26)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 11 2010,12:14)Bod, you I used to like, now I dont, sorry,  it takes time to get to know someone, especially on an internet forum such as this,You are nice to people you dont know, awfull to people you do, and FAKE to anyone who agrees with you, because it soon changes the moment they…[Read more]

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    Oh, ok, you answered, sorry lol.

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    And ok, I will now remove the log in my own eye,

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    Bod, you I used to like, now I dont, sorry,  it takes time to get to know someone, especially on an internet forum such as this,You are nice to people you dont know, awfull to people you do, and FAKE to anyone who agrees with you, because it soon changes the moment they dont.Much like a door to door salesman,Stu on the other hand, for an athiest,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2010,23:46)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 10 2010,21:32)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 10 2010,21:38)The greatest thing assisting STU in finding God is his actual fascination with people who believe(1)Stu's 'fascination with people who believe' can be further helped by Ed's dialoguing with him, (2)even if numbers are not believable,…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 10 2010,21:38)The greatest thing assisting STU in finding God is his actual fascination with people who believeStu's 'fascination with people who believe' can be further helped by Ed's dialoguing with him, even if numbers are not believable, it's the whole 'conversation thing', and Ed is a nice…

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    Who were you speaking to Bod ?

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    Mike, though I agree with you on those verses, Im sort of on the side of what your saying and also on the side of what they are saying, but differently because I believe that PERHAPS the son spoken about was the Holy Spirit, (The word?….also called The Son) Im not denying what scripture say's, the Holy Spirit/Word/Son WAS there with God before…[Read more]

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    Hi Ed, very good, but, I think for Athiests, there needs to be more than that, (sorry).You are doing the right thing, I believe that God reveals himself to people as He draws them, are these people drawn and shown evidence for their own good ? To a point, but I believe that many don't get it, those who are drawn, then have a job to do, and that is…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Sep. 10 2010,13:52)Hi JA:This dream is just a further confirmation of what God has promised me.  He promised me that my wife and my son would be saved, and he also said that he would use me as a Bishop or overseer in the church.And so, yes, I know I have it right.  True, there are many troubles along the way.  God showed me the en…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2010,12:10)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 09 2010,19:55)Um, Mike,64.29% say no, God does not procreate,35.71% say yes, God does procreate……….(out of 10 votes !)I really don't know.Hi Shimmer,I think when people see the word “procreate”, they imagine a male and a female having sexual intercourse to produce an offspring.  I…[Read more]

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    JA, I see what you mean about the water, I think Marty has it right, Marty desired for His Family to join him, it is always hard when they don't see what you see,  but that is now happening, thats amazing and really good. I know a lady who's husband and child have never come to believe as she does. The son is in prison for drug offences, the…[Read more]

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    “We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose”. Romans 8:28

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    Amen Marty :)

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 09 2010,10:06)Hi Shimmer, Welcome back.Maybe the stake in my eye … I see my error. Thank you for showing me.To respond, though – See SF's response – this sums it up nicely. Such hope of the revelation and the reality are much welcomed.Too often I see two people debating a point with counter intuitive reasoning – too close…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 10 2010,06:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2010,18:39)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,21:45)Also, “Does God procreate” ? Well, scripture doesnt say, does it ?Hi Shimmer,Scripture says God begot a Son.  That is the same as saying God procreated a Son.mikeDoes beget always mean procreate?I didn't think so!WJThat's what I…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 09 2010,09:51)Shimmer,This is very accurate. It is indeed to do with Faith. Also, when we ask in Jesus' name we are asking under no delusion – or illusion of self – (the 'selfish me') of impossible requests (E.g. In Jesus' name please make me rich; Oh, and also stop all worlds wars; and, and… please help Granny Smith to…[Read more]

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    Mike and Ed, that's interesting. Thanks.

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