Hi Karmarie, you said:”When I see the pope and his followers, I don't sense anything bad.” Karmarie, are we to rely on our “common sense” for spiritual discernment or what the Bible says and history records?You are right, the pope doesn't appear that bad does he?  He looks harmless enough … clothed in his white robes, he even appears as an a…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,You now say that you dont know much about the history of the RCC.  I think it is imperative that you look into it if you are seriously seeking the truth about the subject we are discussing.Did you read “What I Saw In Rome” … do you believe what he saw?Are you aware of the Inquisition?Are you aware of the book “The Rise and Fall of…[Read more]

The following excerpts are from the book “What I Saw In Rome” … by JA Kensit.Catering to the sinful bodies of men.The monk Tetzel was dispatched through Europe to hawk “indulgences” or pardon for sins. So shamelessly was this business carried forward that the monk declared his indulgences to be efficacious both for sins already committed and…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,O Babylon, city of power!Your question … IS Rome a city of great power?Your futurist thinking may be clouding the text.  “WAS” Rome a city of great power?  Yes. Everything in the Bible, including prophecy, does not have to be in the future.Regarding its power then AND NOW.  Do not underestimate the hidden power of the Jesuits in wo…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,I dont know if Rev 18 is referring to all of Rome, but God definitely is describing Vatican City to a tee.Hint … Vatican City is built upon volcanic rock.Please, slowly read Rev 18 and see if you can honestly fit New York or Jerusalem or Mecca into that description?Yes T … you could very well be right.  Hislop could have gleaned…[Read more]

Karmarie … my error.  I missed the connection between heresies, marrying and meat.  My dumb!You said “we can still buy and sell”.  That is true, but that is futurist thinking … according to them, little has happened, most is yet to come.Are you aware that an edict or papal bull was issued during the “Dark Ages” (that in itself is a picture of…[Read more]

Hey T,I have Hislop's book, good reading.Another good one is by Charles Chinique (I think I spelt that wrong) 50 Years In The Church Of Rome.He was a Roman Catholic priest in Canada and had much to say about the errors of Rome.Regarding the beast, Hislop states that he is a man, an actual personality.  Rev 13:18 tells us that he will have “the…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie ,,, just to clear up a couple of points from an earlier post of yours.  (Mar 22)You said:  “Forbidding to marry, refraining from eating meat could be referring to Heresies which were to come into the church.”I am curious … what biblical principle or passage connects marrying and meat to heresies?You had noted that some Adventists d…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,You said: “It was the Eastern Orthodox church, they have all the writings of the earliest church.”I think you will agree that that is completely different than them being the earliest church, as you and Mike had originally said (Mike saying the RCC was the first or earliest).Regarding the comments of your link.As you know, I believe…[Read more]

Thanks T, but that is a subject that I do not wish to enter, as my last comment about the oneness or unity of God had to do with the literal meaning of Deut 6:4 where God is “echad” one.Echad is a unity of one and no one can dispute this, it is fact.  I would appreciate it if this subject was not injected into this thread and that we could…[Read more]

Thanks for the link Karmarie.They had so many opposing views that one would think they all used a different Bible!

Hi Karmaie,I was hoping that someone would have responded about your and Mikes claim that the RCC was “the first and earliest” church.I would have thought that the first Christian church would have been in Jerusalem … wouldn't you?In the beginning of Revelation John of Patmos speaks about seven churches that existed in his time.  The Church of…[Read more]

Yes Ed … you are right.  “Drinking the blood” is a result of their doctrine of transubstantiation.The RCC belief that Mark 14:22, 24 is to be understood literally.”This is My body” … “This is My blood”.Most Protestants believe neither Scripture nor history provide evidence for this belief.  I hope all will note the following:Protestants see i…[Read more]

Hi Karinamarie,I am not going to let you “off the hook” on this one!Putting aside all the miracles they claim, let us home in on one.The RCC claims the pope and his priests change the wine into the literal blood of Jesus, then they “drink the blood”.This is true or it is a lie. Do you believe they can do this?If not, how can you continue to…[Read more]

T,The papal mitre “appears” like the head of a fish, and that is why some people compare the pope to the fish god Dagon.But their doctrine is not what we believe, but what they say it is.Their official position is that the “hat” represents the tongues of fire that came down upon the heads of the Apostles.This is fact.

Hi Karmarie,Regarding the papal “hat” symbolizing the “tongues of fire', is that an interpretation that is biblically reasonable regarding how the false prophet (Vatican) can bring down fire “in the sight of men”?  Or, do you think that understanding is completely unbiblical?Regarding their “miracles” … do you believe them?If not, how can you…[Read more]

Terraricca,Did you (Selah) ever look at the history of the Roman Catholic church?  And I mean from 323AD to 2010 Ad and compare it with the teachings of the bible .,..I thought that was what I have been doing, but please enlighten me.  I am always receptive to the truth about Romanism.You may have knowledge that I am not aware of.

Hi Karmarie,I had stated that thousands upon thousands of 'miracles” have been claimed by the Church of Rome.This is what distinguishes them as being the “true church”.You said … “But not making fire come down from the sky?”I am sure that you are not a 100% literalist, as you do not believe the mark of the beast to be literal.Do you think this…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,I believe the following passages have direct reference to the Church of Rome.”And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”  Matt 23:9Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in the later times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils:…[Read more]

My mistake Georg.You are not “numbered” with the transgressors.Lucifer and Muhammad are 74 … you are short of the mark … only 52