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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 18 2010,14:15)Who passed on the idea that God is not a Trinity?  Again, it is the Bible itself that declares the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one person from beginning to end, and never once does the bible declare the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be more than one person. By default, then, it is the…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 18 2010,14:15)Who passed on the the teaching of soul annihilation?  Who passed on the idea the Jesus was merely an angel?  Who passed on the idea that God is not a Trinity?  Who passed on being baptized into the “spirit of the organization”?Who passed on the idea the the Holy Spirit is merely a “force”?Who passed on…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 20 2010,03:20)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 19 2010,07:50)Who were the men who knew the apostles?Polycarp of SmyrnaIgnatius of AntiochClement of RomeBut you are opposed to the teachings of these holy men.As far as I know, we do not have any manuscripts of these people before the fourth century; while it is possible that…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 20 2010,14:20)So let me get this straight.  YOU believe that both the Church and the message of the gospel was an UTTER FAILURE.  YOU believe that right out of the gate, the gospel was corrupted and lost.  YOU believe that in fact, the gates of hell prevailed against the Church.YOU believe that of all of the wr…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 20 2010,14:20)Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 19 2010,19:20)So let me get this straight.  YOU believe that both the Church and the message of the gospel was an UTTER FAILURE.If I may step in here to comment on this.Neither the church or gospel message of the apostles are a failure. This does not mean that there was no…[Read more]

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    What Does the Bible Really Say About Hell? (1) The Bible hell (sheol/hades) is the realm of death; it is described as a condition in which there is no work, no device, no knowledge, nor wisdom. — Ecclesiastes 9:10 (many translations render “sheol” as “the grave” here). (2) The only Old Testament word translated hell is sheol, to which the New…[Read more]

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    Revelation 21:8 The true character of the goat class is portrayed. “The fearful and unbelieving , the abominable, murderers , fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters , and all liars” — “whosoever love and makes a lie” “will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone , which is the second death.” Such company would be repulsive to…[Read more]

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    The Lake of Fire The “lake of fire” is several times mentioned in the book of Revelation, which all Christians admit to be a book of symbols. However, they generally think and speak of this particular symbol as a literal statement giving strong support to the eternal torment doctrine, notwithstanding the fact that the symbol is clearly defined…[Read more]

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    I have been reading comments to this thread, but have not been posting since I have already spread myself out over too many forums, and have found that I haven't the time to sufficiently address all the responses being made. I will, however, post a series of excerpts from studies I have written related to this topic that I believe might be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2008,23:17)Hi GB,So are the angel and Jesus and others symbolic?Jesus is usually represented in the book of Revelation as the lamb. The “lamb” is not a literal lamb; it is symbolic of the overcoming Jesus.The Revelation is from the only true God, Yahweh, to Jesus, who in turn gives it to the angel, who in turn gives it…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (proverbs31.11 @ April 23 2008,00:44)new math for old problem of Trinity proof1x1x1=1Of course 1 of 1 of 1 is alway that “1” that you begin with. So, also,…[Read more]

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    Quote (ronday888 @ April 22 2008,10:02)I hit the wrong button. Sorry for the extra posts.Ronald

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    Quote (Cubes @ July 20 2006,20:45)Quote (t8 @ July 20 2006,06:04)The outcome for the wicked is 'destruction'. They will 'perish'.But we perhaps need to define those 2 words to understand their punishment.Hi t8:What's getting to me is this:  if the inhabitants of Sodom were destroyed by fire and brimstone, and that's awful enough, and Jesus says…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    Moses spoke:Deuteronomy 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; Deuteronomy 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken.Deuteronomy 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,17:12)Hi RD, You say”Likewise, the “panta” — all — that was created through the Logos, referred to in John 1:3,4, is speaking, not of everything in the universe, but the world that was made by means of the Logos, the same world that did not recognize him. — John 1:10″ Jn1 9That was the true Light, which…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (ronday888 @ Mar. 31 2008,16:51)What About Isaiah 48:13? He laid the foundations of the earth, That it should not be moved forever. — Psalm 104:5, World English Bible translation. Yes, my hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand has spread out the heavens: when I call to them, they stand up together. — Isaiah 48:13,…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 31 2008,03:49)OK, really must go to bed now….:)Hebrews 1:10 tells us that it was in fact Yeshua's hands that laid the foundations of the Earth.****I am going to be posting what I have written before for the Restoration Light website. Since the study is rather long, I will split it up into several…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 23 2008,03:38)John 19:7The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God.CF.John 5:18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,23:03)Hi RD, So eating ordinary food sustains life just as well as food from the tree of life?I should have said that the fruit of the trees of life sustain life forever; the fruit of the trees outside of the garden do not do this.Christian love,Ronald

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,16:06)Hi RD, You say”Adam was not dying until he sinned. He was indeed alive. Thus, he was in the condition of living forever until he lost that life through sin.”But scripture saysGen 3″22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and…[Read more]

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