Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
mikeboll64, Quote Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 20 2012,20:21)Paul says your spirit soul and body. Was he not right? Was he speaking by himself of himself or by Gods direction?Rich, it seems you're missing my point, which was: SO WHAT if Paul speaks of a man's spirit, soul, and body? Do each of these three things have a mind and will of their own? If…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
mikeboll64, Quote As far as man being triune, it depends on how far you want to go to make the illusion become truthAre you kidding me, Illusion? What part of illusion is in this scripture,Th_5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
Ed J said Quote Hi Richturner, for 1John 5:7 to authentic: it should read… (Link)1John 5:7 From heaven, there are three that born witness: “The Father”, “The Word” and “Jesus”.But it doesn't. That would indicate 3 Gods verifying the Trinity. I don't believe in 3 Gods, only one just as the bible states. “I am God and there is none other”. The…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
mikeboll64, Quote I could speak about the fruit, peel, and seed of a banana. It wouldn't prove a triune God any more than Paul's words in 1 Thess 5:23 prove a triune God.This scripture has nothing to do with God and the Trinity, it has to do with man being triune. It was stated in this forum that man was not triune, I used the tabernacle as a…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
SimplyForgiven, Quote Lose the word Triune, because there is nothing scriptural about it. Francis, (A former forum member) mentioned a good example of how the Tabernacle is comparable to Jesus in a sense that God dwelt within the Tabernacle. The Tabernacle remained as it is, yet God dwell in it, therefore being the spirit of God being with the…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
SimplyForgiven, Quote Well the best thing I Can tell you is that you hold on to words that have no scriptural bases, and already have a doctrine of their own.That's a new for me. Every thing I have stated I have used scripture. Yes I know about the Old Testament prophecy where Jesus would say “I thirst”, but honestly where can you find anyone…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote Richtuner do you believe this scripture, yes or no?John 17:3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.I'm guessing that you have some other way of looking at this scripture. Jesus was ask several questions just so the people could catch Him in His own word to find some fault,…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
Ed J,I'm not trying to use math to explain Jesus. No matter what lineage His mother or grandfather was, both were from Adam. They both shared in humanity, (human race and nature). It seems a hard thing to get through to people, but again, all of us has the nature of Adam passed down through his seed. Mary and her father and his father etc. The…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
Ed J, Why are fixated on a percentage? What would satisfy you?I don't think the bible gives any indication at all on a percentage. When God made man he put something in him that He didn't in any other creation, even Angels. Man was the only one that was in the “image” of Himself. Although I believe the “breath of life” is different than “the life”…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
ED J, “Do you consider man to be 100% “not God”? I'm not sure about your question. Do you mean man who is not born again or after one is born again. Again, the nature of a thing, (in this case man) is in it's seed. A man who is not born again has the seed and nature of Adam who died a spiritual death. When a man is born again he or she…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
Wow! Out of all scriptures, (or statements) given I seem to hit on one thing that brings out the judgmental part of some of you. You are quick to correct someone by one scripture or statement and not comment on any other scriptures. About man being spirit, soul, and body t8 ask “And is the spirit, soul, and body all separate persons.No.”When…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
terraricca, you fulfill the scriptures 1Cor. 2:14 and 2Peter 3:16.Ed3, To understand what man is, we must consider that it comes by virtue of the seed. Again in Gen. it says the seed is within the thing to reproduce after its kind. When man sinned against God his seed became corrupted, (1Peter 1:23) meaning all who came into the earth by way of…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 1 month ago
There are many scriptures but here are a few.1Co_2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Luk 12:19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. We don't need…[Read more]
Richtuner replied to the topic 2 Corinthians 4:42 in the forum Debates 12 years, 1 month ago
I would like to pipe in if invited.