I think this –Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 30 2013,23:36)Hi.The whole chapter of Rev 14 is clearly past, (Jerusalem 70AD and the 144000 sealed from the tribes of Israel)Now you see, the book clearly is not in any type of order and things are reiterated.The reason I am up to Rev 14 is because I had read from chapter 6 right through. I will go back over it.There is also…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 30 2013,21:47)Res, I'll post as I read, (even if it is a bit off topic).Rev 15:2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire, and them that had overcome the beast.John 16:33I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the…[Read more]

Ok , I will pop in now and then to see.Res.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 30 2013,13:09)So Res, you are studying the book of Revelations. an interesting book to study.Do you believe that it is in any type of order?The feeling i had was that it is not, the eastern church also say this.Hi 2 becee, The seals of the book of Rev. give the overiding order of events. Christ returns in the sixth seal as…[Read more]

Yes that is what my contributions have said.Res.

Journey 42. Just do not make yourself into the great teacher. Be a pupil under Christ like everyone else. Trumpets are given in symbols of the OT. I can give you a sample of the way to interpret them. Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 28 2013,01:23)Quote J42, The first 6 trumpets of Rev.ch 8 and 9 concern the demise of the church institutions and the sinners of them.Why would you think that?  I don't really understand what you say?look at this?The first trumpetRev 8:7   The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and t…[Read more]

Wakeup, The coming against Israel in safety occurs shorthly after their gathering from the nantions and the expulsion of its sinners from the land at the beginning of the millennium. The wicked want to get dominion over them back, so they are gathered there by the 6th vial but then Christ comes down upon them from the air. Rev.19. Ez 38:14-23 and…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 27 2013,12:21)Quote (Resting @ Mar. 27 2013,11:50) 2 Besee, If Satan was bound at the cross, then his release would undo the work of the cross. Satan's ability to deceive was just as strong as ever when the early church was being killed after the cross. The future binding of satan is said to be by a strong angel as if using a…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 27 2013,10:34)Quote (Resting @ Mar. 27 2013,09:41)Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2013,20:08)Quote (Resting @ Mar. 26 2013,13:55)Quote Ezekiel Gog and Magog is future before/ at the beginning of the thousand years and Gog and Magog of Rev.ch 20 is after the thousand years.ResLike I said, you are not alone with that interpretation.…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2013,20:59)Quote (Resting @ Mar. 26 2013,14:00)Quote Some things are very obvious. However when you understand trumpets and who is being judged by them then you may be very upset depening on where you stand. It is not right to overlay trumpets on the vials. Thet are nseparate events at different times. Christ returns at…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 26 2013,20:00)Quote (Resting @ Mar. 26 2013,12:23)Satan has not beem limited in my view. He has been overpowered by the gospel when people believe. Satan is still destroying the lives of people, and is still working in many churches.Look around.Res.Resting,Okay. You believe that Satan has not been bound yet.You also rightly…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2013,20:08)Quote Ezekiel Gog and Magog is future before/ at the beginning of the thousand years and Gog and Magog of Rev.ch 20 is after the thousand years.ResLike I said, you are not alone with that interpretation.  The whole christian world believes this.I have laid my cards on the table giving reasons why they are not…[Read more]

Some things are very obvious. However when you understand trumpets and who is being judged by them then you may be very upset depening on where you stand. It is not right to overlay trumpets on the vials. Thet are nseparate events at different times. Christ returns at the seventh trumpet for the one time only of the resurrection and it is only…[Read more]

Ezekiel Gog and Magog is future before/ at the beginning of the thousand years and Gog and Magog of Rev.ch 20 is after the thousand years.

Satan has not beem limited in my view. He has been overpowered by the gospel when people believe. Satan is still destroying the lives of people, and is still working in many churches.Look around.Res.

and thanks all for the welcomes.Res.

The A mill view requires that we are in the time of the millennium now. I do not accept that satan is bound in a pit, nations no longer learn war, and the spirit of the Lord covers the earth like waters of the sea or that his name is the only one in the world offering salvation. (other than Christs name offers no salvation)Res.

Wakeup, Yes they come against the same area but the Ez. 38-39 event is at the beginnig of the thousand years and Rev.20 is at the end . Unless you have them of Israel burying the bones and picking up weapons to burn for 7 years after the event to clean the land after the thousand years and there are many nations witnessing this at the time, which…[Read more]