Adam…….exactly right! If Jesus was a perfect “preexisting being” of any kind , and then come to earth “disguised” as a human being, it would prove apsolutely “nothing” to anyone.

Incorrect Gene.

First off, it is not a disguise. He emptied himself and came in the flesh.

Secondly, such a being who was first with God and came to be with us a…[Read more]

How it feels to be on the receiving end of an ignorant flat earther
I’m from NZ, so from my observation and experience, if the earth was flat, this would be the map. It agrees with my travel experience between NZ and South America as well as witnesses I know who have been to the South pole and Antarctica in general.

But this would be almost…[Read more]

BUT WHAT IF THE MICAH PROPHECY HAD SAID THIS…

IN THE EVENING OF THE FIRST DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, PEOPLE WILL COME TO YOU FROM ASSYRIA, AND BY THE MORNING OF THE SECOND DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, THEY WILL BEGIN TO ARRIVE FROM THE CITIES OF EGYPT.

THEN WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT LITERAL DAYS?  YES OR NO?

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Please remove posts #932390 and #932418 from this thread.  They are not related to our current discussion, nor the topic of this thread in general.

This discussion is called “The Bible vs Scientism”. Those posts are very on topic Mike.

My Question

The verse you presented DOESN’T have a numerical value (a number) attributed to the word “day”. And it DOESN’T contain the word “morning”. It does contain the Greek word “phósphoros”, in its ONLY use in the entire Bible. It literally means “the bringing of light” or “radiant/radiance”. It is translated as “day-star” and “morning…

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I’m from NZ, so from my observation and experience, if the earth was flat, this would be the map.

Mike’s teachings on Flat earth has been well and truly debunked. All that is left is for him to crucify his pride and admit the truth when it is presented to him. His call as to what manner of man he wants to be.

Look i am not here saying Jesus is “nothing”, he certanly is a glorified Son,  of our heavenly Father, a real prototype of what God our  Father,  has and had in mind, when he created “mankind”,  in the first place.

Scripture is clear. He is THE protype son. The first. All things were created through him and for him. He was WITH God before the u…[Read more]

More observational proof of the globe
This is Mt Taranaki again. Just a reminder. It sits on a peninsula. It is not an island.

Our current understanding of the universe requires a creator all the more.

Atheists would have an easier time with the odds if there was only a floating pizza.

Simple.

Another claim debunked
Claim
Mars looks exactly like Arizona, Nevada or parts of the Australian outback desert and it appears NASA simply added a red tint to the atmosphere in post-production. By using the “AutoLevels Tool” in Photoshop, official NASA Mars photographs lose their red tint, however, and look exactly like the Earth. NASA has alre…[Read more]

You asked if all pilots were lying about the curve.  I showed you that there is no pilot that could have possibly seen the curve from 7 miles up – since it can’t even be seen from 55 miles up.

It’s not about seeing the curve, but about flight routes. The Flat Earth has Southern Hemisphere routes way bigger than they really are. So pilots woul…[Read more]

Look another one. God the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 5:21
“I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels”

So Jesus is both the almighty God and Lord, thus the above verse doesn’t give honour to the Father as well?

No. I believe we give thanks to God and to Jesus our lord for all things. God first.

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while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

God and Jesus Christ. You merged them into the same person?

Question is,  do you “truly” believe what Jesus said? If so how is it saying God Is Jesus’ Father and Saying God is our Father , makes Jesus any different the we are,  with our heavenly Father?

Gene,  yes there are sons of God. But Jesus is the Prototype Son. That is the difference. He is the first and takes first place in all things. We will be…[Read more]

Looney Tunes

Project Loon is like the horse buggy in world already inundated with space satellite “automobiles”.  It doesn’t do a dang thing that isn’t already being done more efficiently by a different product.

Hi Mike. I used this service called Google and it pointed me to this. Took a few minutes.

Pros: Cheap and plentiful. Can get really g…

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“I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

Proclaimer,  you Got it backwards,  Jesus was a Son of man,  according to him over 80 times saying it, who died and became a son of God,  you, must be born again,  just as he was, and must over come just as he did, inorder to enter the kingdom of God.

You are incorrect about Jesus and the proof that you do not believe in the true Jesus of the N…[Read more]

How Do We Actually Know We Landed on the Moon?