The problem does not come from saying Jesus is Lord; but from saying he is God. In John 13:13-16 Jesus himself claims to be both master and Lord but goes on to teach that the servant is not greater than his lord and the one sent is not greater than the one who was sent.

There is no agreement between Trinitarian teachers on even what the term…[Read more]

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I apply my quote to everything in the Bible and I see no problem applying it to the scripture you reference. If there was a misunderstanding as to what I believe; I believe there is One God who is the Father and one Lord who is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. While individual verses pulled out of context may make one…[Read more]

I sometimes wonder why people cannot just read the Bible and accept it. I am constantly amazed at how seldom people just read the Bible and say they accept it. It is really quite simple if one will just do that but most will say “I know it says that, but here is what it really means.” In most cases; everything after ‘this is what is really…[Read more]

I have been following this debate concerning the doctrine of the Trinity for many years; and this discussion has included most, if not all, of the arguments I have heard over the years. The argument usually seems to not be about a Trinity; but rather about Jesus and usually finds itself centered around just a few verses; but always coming home…[Read more]

I appreciate your reply to my comment. I would like to add; if I may, my belief that this is a site used for the glory of God and for the encouragement of fellow believers. I have, over the years, found the traditional teachings to not be what I once thought they were. Some of the studies have taken me to places where I thought no one else had…[Read more]

I would like to add to this debate if I may. I don’t want to be too lengthy; but I see here two men who believe they are being taught by revelation who have two opposing views. Both cannot be revealed by the Spirit of God. I grew up in the US in a Southern Baptist church and was a staunch believer in the doctrine of the Trinity. I taught it…[Read more]