NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Fear Him Who has the power to destroy body and soul in Gehenna. Mt 10.28
This is the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Was Jesus just referring to the dump?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Is this the common grave of mankind and if so where is it?
Or does it mean the millions of individual graves and if so why do you speak of them as one?
There are over 70 references to Sheol and they seem to describe a place in the earth but you just deny all of these?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Those in Hades are also dead in the eyes of men.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Those who sleep in Christ are dead in the eyes of men.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Anthony,
Another interesting insight.
Thank you.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
Rom 8.11
But if the Spirit of Him Who raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you,
He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you.
The Holy Spirit dwells in us even after death to quicken our bodies at the resurrection.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
Those alive in Christ are already spiritually seated with him in the heavenlies.
Eph 2.5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,(by grace ye are saved;)
and hath raised us up together ,and made us sit together in heavenly places with Christ Jesus.
Col 3.1
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
2tim 2.11
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him we shall also live with him:
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him he also will deny us:
If we believe not yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
‘When you quench the Spirit it goes out’
I see you mean like extinguishing a flame.
No suggestion that the faithful Spirit leaves.
But if submit to God then we walk in the Spirit.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
‘ You should know’
What do you mean?
Where did I say you CANNOT lose the Anointing Spirit?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
As with all men the human spirit of Jesus returned to God at his death.
But the Holy Spirit in him abided and raised him so that he is the firstborn from the dead.
The NEW creation is all in the eternal Spirit of God and God will again dwell on earth in the new Jerusalem
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
Jesus really and truly died as men do.
He gave up his spirit on Calvary.
“I was dead and now am alive”
He tasted death for all men and showed it holds nothing to fear for the anointed ones.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
The meek shall inherit the earth.
But some go directly to heaven you say?
Heaven is the throne of God and not the inheritance of men.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Following God?
No we follow the Son of God.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
Jn 4.14
‘ But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give shall never thirst:
but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.’
But you would change this to say that there would be an interruption at death but the supply would resume later.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi TC,
When he died Jesus gave up HIS SPIRIT, not the Holy Spirit.
The spirit of every human born on earth returns to God at death Eccl 12.7
Indeed Job need not worry about being remembered as he will hear the Voice of the Son.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
The Disciples too were baptised in the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
God offered the same promise to every generation in Acts 2.39
He has not lost His abilities and has not withdrawn His promise.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You say ‘the human spirit is reborn..is aware of God and seeks God’s guidance’
What nonsense. Men are reborn, not their human spirits.
Men must be reborn from above of water and the Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is gifted from God, as with Jesus, placed in our vessel for God to work in and through us.
It is according to Him not us. F…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Mankind is like grass.
Blown this way and that by demonic imaginations.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Nonsense.
The spirits of men and animals are of the breath of God not the Spirit of God.
You must repent and be born again from above to even taste of His Spirit.
The extraordinary vanity of men seemingly knows no bounds .
Nicodemus seemed to get the message.
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