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    @t8 Hi t8,
    You believe that the spirit and mind of a being called the Word was given flesh?

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      We are told the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and then we are told that the son is back in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos. We are told God created all things through the Word and through the Son. Then we notice that it is written that when he returns, he has a name, the Word of God. Draw your own conclusion.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, though he existed in the form of God…
    What isthe FORM OF GOD?
    God is Spirit.

    So this is not speaking of a separate spirit being called JESUS CHRIST but is speaking of the Holy Spirit in him.

    You approve of me saying again that Jesus is a soul, enlivened by a…[Read more]

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      Your own understanding is at play here. Yes we know that God is spirit and the Father of spirits and that angels are spirits. Saying that the Word is the Spirit of God is stretching too far toward your own understanding because it doesn’t say that at least not in the verse you bring up.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    BECOME SHARERS IN THE DIVINE NATURE is our hope.
    And the means is obvious, as God shares The Spirit with us we produce good fruit.
    But your literal view of Phil 2 is different. BEING of his own nature GOD you see is quite different. Expound this please.

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      I’ll give you a clue. There is divine nature and flesh nature. The latter makes us fall short of God’s glory. Do not satisfy the flesh.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    Do you think HE WAS CONCEIVED means the same as A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME and THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH?
    If so was Jesus conceived as just a body for the Word?

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      Actually that is what your teaching appeared to be like, but you admitted that he had a soul, so that was good. Jesus is the Christ, not some empty shell that was overtaken by God.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    When ‘ he came in appearance as a man’
    does that fit with being conceived?

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      He took on flesh. He came in a body, a body of a man. He became a man so we could become sons of God just as he is a son. He became like us so we could become like him.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    The Word was God.
    What does this mean to you?

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    @t8 Hi T8,
    The Word was with God and was God.
    If you knew the Spirit you would know this was not speaking of a being, but the Spirit of Christ, yet one with God in Spirit.

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    ‘ He emptied himself and came as a man’
    So if you come as a man are you like other men with a human body , soul and spirit?
    Are you speaking of the Word Who was God?
    Or are you just ANOTHER BEING IN FLESH.?

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    Men have quoted scripture in ignorance forever.
    Get the Author to help.

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      Getting the author to help is a good thing. I hope you will do that as I will endeavour to do. When he said today in the city of David, he meant what he said. Please pray to the author of scripture about why he sent an angel to declare that the messiah was in their presence.

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    @t8 Hi T8,
    Coll 2.18
    Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self abatement and the worship of the angels,
    Taking his stand ON VISIONS HE HAS SEEN, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind.

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      I see you are at home here with the new format. It is perfect for these one liner accusations. But this scripture is good. Anymore scripture?

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    WHEN THE ANGEL DECREED IT.
    Get some prophetic insight and come out of this childish understanding.

    You are flesh.
    Remember man that thou art dust…
    Stop trying to make the Son of man different to us.

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    A bit surprised that you would not defend the beliefs that underlie your doctrines.
    Was Jesus some sort of spirit being prior to his conception?

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      Be not surprised. Read my posts. I have answered this an many questions like it for years now. Shouldn’t take you too long to find the answer you seek.

    • Profile picture of Proclaimer

      Tell you what. If and when I come across one of my own posts on the subject, I will copy and paste it here for you. When I first started up this forum, God showed me in a dream that some would come here to waste my time and to not be distracted by them. So I need to be faithful to God Nick, but I have no problem copying and pasting a post I spent…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    So you do not believe what is written.
    Do you say that Jesus was a divine son or an angelic son prior to his conception?

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    The word was with God and was God in the beginning.
    Do you believe the Word was a man called Jesus?

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    @t8 Hi t8,
    Incorrect in what way?
    That a man did NOT PREEXIST his conception,birth or naming?

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi t8,
    You do believe in your own form of prophecy.
    You believe a man called Jesus existed before he was conceved, born and named Jesus.

    Odd stuff.

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    You are your own god and a self appointed teacher of truth.
    So you can appoint whatever meaning to scripture you wish.
    Submit to the almighty God of Israel and listen to the Spirit.

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @t8 Hi T8,
    Yes those who are infallible are always correct in their reading of scripture.
    They have no need to learn or change because they already know it all.

    Wake up from your slumber, open your ears and eyes and begin to live.

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    @lester Hi TC,
    Do you not fellowship with the Father AND the Son in the One Spirit?
    Stay within the truth and you might.
    2jn9, 2cor 13.14, Jn 14.23, 1 Jn 1.3

  • Profile picture of NickHassan

    @lester Hi TC,
    He was in the world and the world was made through Him.
    The creative Spirit of Anointing was in the man Jesus of Nazareth from the Jordan.

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