Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 06 2013,19:23)Hi MikeFirstly, thank you for watching the video and addressing those points.But can I ask you this?If I write a song, copyright it, and distribute, then another person comes along …..400 years later…. and claims it's their song, then who's song is it?It would still be your song, journey.

So, I hadn't posted in this thread for a week, and came back today and caught up with all the posts.  What a trip!What's happened to journey and Wakeup?tigger is right that the discussion started off being about why the KJV scholars felt it was appropriate to ALTER the written word of God and all but ELIMINATE His Divine Name from their…[Read more]

Oh, and about the KJV's “Jaareoregim”, they say:Heb “Jaare-Oregim,” but the second word, which means “weavers,” is probably accidentally included. It appears at the end of the verse. The term is omitted in the parallel account in 1 Chr 20:5, which has simply “Jair.”They believe that since the word “weavers” occurs at the end of the verse, it w…[Read more]

journey,From NETNotes:The Hebrew text as it stands reads, “Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite.” Who killed Goliath the Gittite? According to 1 Sam 17:4-58 it was David who killed Goliath, but according to the MT of 2 Sam 21:19 it was Elhanan who killed him. Many scholars believe that the two passages are hop…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 31 2013,19:57)I see glory of God as meaning something that brings glory onto God's name.So then Jesus existed every second on earth “with the glory of God” if that is the case, right?So what point was Jesus making by telling us he would return with “the glory of God”? How was this “returning glory” different than the glory he…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 31 2013,19:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2013,07:07)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 30 2013,19:30)To all,Then there is these words from RevelationsRevelation 18:2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 01 2013,12:50)So either Jesus had his mortal body and so had not undergone the final resurrection from the dead or he was had undergone that resurrection and had his new body, designed and made by God.Or a THIRD option:Jesus had indeed been raised from the dead as promised, but had not yet received the new, glorious, spiritual…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 01 2013,12:50)I don't believe he had holes in it as I have heard no actual evidence to that effect beyond the translations of heretics of certain vague Koine Greek words.Think it out, Kerwin.If there was no hole remaining in Jesus' side, then there was no reason whatsoever for Thomas to say he wouldn't believe UNLESS he could…[Read more]

Yeah, I don't know why Wakeup can't just use quote boxes like a normal person.   His posts are often hard to follow because it's hard to see who said what.

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,21:16)Mike B.There must be one only bible that God has preserved.Well if He did, it surely isn't the KJV. Surely you're beginning to see that with your own eyes with every new comparison scripture journey posts, right?Wakeup, the truth is preserved in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words…… not in any one…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 05 2013,20:46)Mike,Quote 1.  Didn't Micaiah himself originally LIE to Ahab by saying, “Attack and be victorious, for Jehovah will give it into the king’s hand” ?  YESDid you miss the next verse……..Nope. But did Micaiah LIE or not? And since he DID lie, do we now refer to him forever as “Evil Micaiah, Servant of Satan”?…[Read more]

Quote Hi Mike,Please understand this I dont believe the father was begotton. I feel like we are getting somewhere!!Yet His Son WAS begotten, right?  An Almighty and ever-existing God is not “begotten” at any time, Daniel.Quote (4Thomas @ Nov. 03 2013,17:04)Jesus is God by nature, he is NOT the Father but comes from the fathers nature ALONE, so he…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Nov. 03 2013,16:43)………its great to know you dont think Jesus is an arch angel or some other angel.I didn't say that last part, Daniel. Jesus is of course an angel of his and our God Jehovah, since he is a spirit messenger of Jehovah – and that's all “angel” means.

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2013,14:33)WQuote Jesus is The Word.  He has been The Word since his and our God created him as the first of His works.IN THIS QUOTE “YOU SAY THE WORD “WAS CREATED ” THIS IS TRUE Pierre, Those were my words in that quote box…….. not Wakeup's.

Okay Wakeup,We are making some good headway now.  It seems you agree on nine of the ten points I listed, so let's discuss the one with which you disagree:Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Fact #1:  Jesus is called “god” in other scriptures.Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,01:48)NEVER; ONLY THE TRINIES HAVE.Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,15:43)So what difference does that make?We know that God's name is Jehovah.Why should one need to introduce ones name 7000 times?Wakeup,I believe the point is that if the actual Hebrew text says “YHWH”, and the KJV translates that Hebrew word as “Jehovah” on a few occasions, what gives them the right to NOT translate…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 01 2013,10:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2013,09:48)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 28 2013,09:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2013,04:09)  Okay Marty.  But did you notice that EVERYTHING said about “the Word” in John 1 is also said in scripture about “Jesus”?  Because that is what I thought you would see from my post.Marty, consider th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,11:12)So why have they deleted the word sodomite?Because they are compromising with them.And you are swallowing their flesh.wakeup.w….the answers are in front of you………Pierre is right, Wakeup.  The answers ARE right in front of you, but you refuse to see them.In both of…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 05 2013,08:47)KJVDueteronomy 23:17   There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.From NETNotes concerning the KJV's word “whore”:The Hebrew term translated “sacred prostitute” here (קְדֵשָׁה , from קַדֵשׁ ; cf. NIV “shrine prostitute”; NASB “cult prostitute”; NRSV, TEV, NLT “te…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 04 2013,19:14)Hi MikeThanks for all your replies and taking the time to answer.  I read all your answers. I'm just stuck for time right now to answer in detail.  Keep in mind I'm no scholar.Did you watch the video I put on last night?  It's obvious God hand was on it right from the start.The video?  It must be in the oth…[Read more]