Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13)Mike B.Very sad to hear that from you.Btw, don't feel sad for me.  I'm the one aligning my understanding with the scriptures.  You have chosen to align yours with the false teachings of Trinitarian men.The scriptures consistently teach of many gods, Wakeup. It was men who came later who started to convince p…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 11 2013,17:13)An angels saves not by own will, but God's will.Jesus saves not by own will, but by God's will.Satan is the god of this evil world, not by own will by God's will. God is the hand holding the axe.(isai 10:15)And what do those three things tell you, Wakeup:1. Jehovah is the ONLY god in existence?2. Jehovah is…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2013,23:13)The man that was made a little lower than the gods is Jesus.All men were made a little lower than the gods, Kerwin.  When Jesus emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being, he too, for a while, was a little lower than the gods.But since then, he as been given back the glory he had alongside his…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2013,19:00)Jesus cannot be an angel as they do rule the world to come.The Greek says “MESSENGERS” do not rule the world to come. Is Jesus a “MESSENGER”, Kerwin?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 11 2013,08:37)…….there are many, many, many “FALSE God's, created by the mind of carnal minded men who want to use this false teaching to make Jesus a God himself .In Gene's understanding, Hebrews 1:8 is a matter of Jehovah Himself calling Jesus a “false god created by the mind of carnal minded men”. And then…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2013,17:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 09 2013,22:40)Are you saying this scarred up body is the glorious resurrected body in which Jesus will eternally dwell?Mike,Why not.  I have seen the bodies God has chosen to give to some of his creatures and those marks of honor on Jesus' flesh are nothing.Well then, we disagree.Nor…[Read more]

Why would I, Wakeup? You can't bring yourself to acknowledge that the KJV mistranslated the two verses we are currently discussing.And you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that the KJV translates the Hebrew word “ra” as “adversity” four different times, but mistranslates it as “evil” Isaiah 45:7.So what would happen if I watched that video,…[Read more]

Wakeup,We could go on and on about this forever.  The bottom line is that you are wrong…….. period.The word “god” NEVER meant “All Powerful Creator of All Things” in ANY scripture.  The word in scripture ALWAYS referred to one who was perceived to be a powerful, supernatural being who had power over the lives of human beings and nature.And s…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup,I was going to go through your last post, point by point, and address them. But let's just get to the bottom line.You are dancing all around Jesus being called “O God” in Hebrews 1:8. You are “justifying” things in your own mind to avoid the truth. And you are “justifying” the other gods mentioned, by calling them “men's gods” and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,20:07)Mike,Scars are marks. I see no evidence for actual holes.So then your understanding is that Jesus was resurrected in a new, glorious, spiritual body that still had the wounds from his crucifixion?Are you saying this scarred up body is the glorious resurrected body in which Jesus will eternally dwell?

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,00:16)Man is the glory of God so Jesus being a male human would in the same way be the glory of God.So then Jesus was saying, “Even though I've existed every second of my life with the glory of God, I'm for no reason at all going to make a point of telling you all that when I come back, it will be with that same exact…[Read more]

I understand the “Lilith” verse. But I don't see anything that fits the thread in the second verse. It simply mentions “demons” – which are mentioned in many verses in the scriptures.Are you just posting scriptures that say “demons”? If not, then what, particularly, are you showing us with the Revelation verse?I'm confused.

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,13:06)This is shows those translators spirit condition.And many are reading their books,and praise them.Wakeup,You are really beginning to trip me out. It's like you're oblivious to what's really going on here.You are saying these newer translations were written by people in bad spirit condition – just because they…[Read more]

Quote (tigger2 @ Nov. 08 2013,15:26)From Part B of my “Seven Lessons for John 1:1c”  linked in my Nov. 06 2013,08:24 post above which wakeup refused to examine:Some of the trinitarian sources which admit that the Bible actually describes men who represent God (judges, Israelite kings, etc.) and God's angels as gods include………….You can add…[Read more]

Wakeup,I'm not sure what this has to do with the discussion about who the “US” was.I assume that Adam and Eve sensed the presence of Jehovah in the garden. Your KJV says it was the “voice” of Jehovah that was walking around, which sounds like the language often employed by the Hebrew writers of scripture when they spoke about the “word” of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,02:11)Mike B.You did not read my post.Stating why the word Lord was used instead ofJehovah.Is there any reason good enough to ALTER the God-inspired holy scriptures – and thereby almost completely eliminate the NAME God Himself gave us to call Him for all time?I wouldn't do it if I was the one translating. Would you?

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,00:05)I use the small case of the word because the single case Koine Greek did not use two cases. Do you believe God is also divine or do you believe it is just the word that is divine?They shouldn't you do the same when writing “God”? Shouldn't you be writing “god”?

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 09 2013,03:45)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,11:44)Wakeup,Easter is a Saxon Holiday which is why the word is English.Kerwin.The roots are of Babylon.And the king is called king of babylon.(bab.the great).Of which all false religion is based on.wakeup.Ed J and I once had this discussion because he is also one of the “KJV ONLY”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,19:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 09 2013,05:20)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,15:58)The new covenant is here, we are not taking advantage of it.The new covenant has been established.  The day of all men having God's law written in their hearts has not yet arrived.Mike,Read that passage from Hebrews I quoted.Yes…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,15:58)The new covenant is here, we are not taking advantage of it.The new covenant has been established. The day of all men having God's law written in their hearts has not yet arrived.