Jodi:  16 And Jacob begat Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born (GENNAO) Jesus, who is called Christ.

Try it this way…

16 And Jacob begat Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born (GENNAO) Jesus, who is called Christ.

You place emphasis on Jesus being born of Joseph.  In reality, it says that Joseph was the husband of Mary.…[Read more]

Jodi:  The virgin birth was NOT a sign so that we would turn and equate Jesus to the likes of a PAGAN DEMIGOD.

The virgin birth was indeed a sign given by God through Isaiah.  If Jesus being born on earth by a virgin mother who had never had sex makes YOU equate Jesus with a pagan demigod, then that is on you.  All I can do is preach what the sc…[Read more]

Kathi, I don’t think you answered me about Acts 4.  What does it mean that the apostles prayed TO the one who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and EVERYTHING in them?  What does it mean that they identified Jesus – not AS that one – but as the holy servant OF that one?

Gene:  He is called the word of God because he speaks “God’s the Fathers ” , words to us. 

That is correct.  Jesus, a living entity, has, as one of his many titles, “The Word of God” because he is God’s main spokesman.  So when it says “the Word” was with God in the beginning, it is talking about this spokesman.  When it says this “Word” bec…[Read more]

Jodi: When time was near for the Son of Man to be taken captive and crucified, he asked God for the glory that he (the Son of Man) had OF God before the world was. 

Using a much less sensible and logical translation of “para” won’t help you this time – because you still need to figure out how a person who was only 30 years old could be asking God…[Read more]

Jodi: The fact that we don’t read any other lineage that says “as was thought” in it, doesn’t change what you are being told. But I believe there is reason why in Jesus’s specific case those words are there.

Me too.  There is a very specific reason why one would say that about Jesus’ human father – but nobody else’s.  And that reason aligns with…[Read more]

Kathi: They are not the same cell, they are two distinct yet identical cells.

I understand what you’re saying.  Do you understand that you’re saying that the Father is a combo of Father and Son while the Son is an IDENTICAL combo of Father and Son?  Because that is what you’re saying, right?  Is that what you believe?

Kathi: The fact that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON implies identical in nature to the One who beget.

Human sons have the same human nature as their fathers, so it makes sense to me that Jesus would have the same spirit nature as his Father too.  Of course we can only speculate.

Kathi:  Zechariah 2:

10“Sing for joy and be glad, O daughter of Zion; for behold I am coming and I will dwell in your midst,” declares the LORD. 11“Many nations will join themselves to the LORD in that day and will become My people. Then I will dwell in your midst, and you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me to you.…

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t8: Let’s take an extreme example, the most extreme possible in the globe model, in fact. So, what is the farthest apart two points can be on Earth? The answer is about 12,500 miles apart, because if they are any farther, they will be closer from another direction. What is the maximum drop a target can have? About 7950 miles, the diameter of th…

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D4T:  I had a ball watching your new video!

LOL!  😁  Is it possible that God created TWO great lights – one to govern the day, and the other to govern the night – just like He said He did?  What a mind-blowing thing it would be for us to find out that our Creator told us the truth about the world He created!

t8:  Dig, instead of teaching and spreading lies…

I have no time to waste on people who can’t be polite enough to say “you’re mistaken”, or “what you said was inaccurate”.   A decent person would have worded that like this…

Dig, instead of teaching and spreading inaccurate information…

Intelligent people can easily recognize the di…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

I am going to answer your question as to the topic of Jesus being flesh and bone by starting a new thread.

In the meantime, could you tell me in this thread whether or not you believe Jesus was raised up in the same body in which he died… sans blood?

I’m also waiting for your answer about John 17:5.  Did Jesus say that HE had g…[Read more]

Jodi: Luke 3:23 King James Bible
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli…

The passage is telling you that Jesus IS the son of Joseph, and it is telling you that the people thought he was the son of Joseph.  That which the people thought he was he was.

Are the…[Read more]

Berean: Hi Mike

You

The correct teaching is that the Word was with THE God at the beginning, and was himself a god.

Me

no Mike i definitely disagree with that .

The Son of God was GOD OR IF YOU PREFERRE OF THE SAME NATURE AS GOD (THE FATHER) Just as a human son is of the same nature as his human father.

Well, the Son is a god who is NOT the…[Read more]

Kathi:  Did that make the OO change, well not in type or function or character.

But it did change, right?  You said so twice.  So does God change?  Did He change from one thing to another in the beginning?

Kathi:  …there is one cell in existence before it becomes two. That one cell that first existed reproduced into a second, that is true…

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Kathi:  …the Greek word that has the article is the word that does the action…

“and the word was with the god”.  What action is “the god” performing here?

Kathi:  The context shows two distinct theos. 

Correct.  There are two completely different gods mentioned in John 1:1.  John only calls one of them “THE god”.  So as Origen concludes – afte…[Read more]

Jodi:  Jesus is said to be flesh and bone not flesh and blood.

Flesh and bone is just the more popular Greek idiom, as compared to our more popular version, “flesh and blood”.  They both mean the same thing… flesh, blood, bone, muscle, nerves, heart, teeth, eyes, etc.

But are you suggesting that Jesus was raised from the grave as a bloodless h…[Read more]

Berean: 1223

dia
dia
dee-ah ‘
a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through
What if we sounded all those

passages where there’s the word “dia”

I’ve already checked a few of them

Good point.  I’d guess that the vast majority of them would be translated as “through” – which is the most common meaning of the Greek word “dia”.  Ev…[Read more]

Berean:  IN THE BIGINNING WAS “THE WORD” AND “THE WORD” WAS            WITH THE GOD AND “THE WORD “WAS GOD.

That’s right, B!  You understand how the definite article was used there by John – who was proficient in the subtleties of the Greek tongue.  What does it mean that John used the definite article once in front of the word “god” – but not…[Read more]