Adam:  So you chose to ignore the contradiction between Paul and Gospel writers (John and Luke)?

You’ve shown no contradiction.  You continually spout off about supposed contradictions in the NT, but you don’t ever actually show any.  Yes, Jesus was resurrected in flesh like John says.  Yes, Jesus must now be spirit in heaven, like Jesus him…[Read more]

Adam:  “Before the child knows enough to refuse evil and choose good the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken”.

So then the sign is that someday, a normal woman will give birth to a normal child in the normal fashion, and within, let’s say 10 years of that birth, some unspecified “land” on the earth will be somehow “for…[Read more]

Adam:   Paul mentions only spiritual body which will be not of flesh…

You just destroyed your own argument.  The resurrection body will NOT BE FLESH.  Why?  Because FLESH can neither see, enter, nor inherit the kingdom of God.

Exhibit A:  After his resurrection, Jesus said he DID have FLESH.

Exhibit B:  FLESH can neither see, enter, nor inheri…[Read more]

Danny:  I will answer your posts/questions to me after my break.
I need to study some more.

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Mike:  In what way would YHWH’s prophecy be any kind of a sign if it only required a regular woman to bear a regular son in the regular manner?

Adam:  We can discuss this Virgin Birth on its main thread. I will post the reply to your query there.

I don’t need to follow a different thread (that is most likely filled with cut and pastes from oth…[Read more]

Mike:  Jesus didn’t do the miracles, but God did the miracles through Jesus. God can do similar and even greater miracles through any one of us.

Carmel:  NOT QUITE PRECISE, Mike, I’m afraid. 

Is it scriptural that God did miracles through His holy servant Jesus?  Is it scriptural that God has done miracles through many of His other servants…[Read more]

Adam:  Paul… only mentioned one resurrection which is of a spiritual body in 1 Cor 15. and there is no mention of second transformation from (physical) body to spiritual after (30) days as claimed by you…

Jesus resurrected Lazarus.  Elijah resurrected one, Elisha resurrected two, Jesus resurrected 3, Peter one, and Paul one.  All of these we…[Read more]

Proclaimer: I do not judge that which has been given to the Son to judge.

Yet you’ve judged me, and King David, as liars.  Hmm… 🙄

Proclaimer:  …those who teach lies are either doing it intentionally or are deceived in that area at least.

King David said the sun moves over the surface of the earth.  According to you he was lying, and is therefore a liar.  I’m asking again if David was lying intentionally, or lying because he was deceived.

And if the latter, who deceived hi…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  No, a lie is anything that is not true.

You’re wrong.  I await your DIRECT response to my previous post… especially the answer to the 3 questions at the end.

LU:  YHVH is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last, the King of Israel, the Maker of Heaven and Earth, the Redeemer, the Good Shepherd, the Lord of lords, the Savior, the Giver of everlasting life, and the Forgiver of sins.

First and last: There are many different “first and lasts”.  For example, Adam was the first and l…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike….It’s a different body then the one buried,  but just like that seed planted it have every genetic code the PREEXISTING BODY HAD,  so when planted it (replicates the exact same body it came from) not a different “kind” of body.

You are adding your own speculation to the scriptures, Gene.

Gene:  “Now if the spirit that raised Jesus…

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Adam:  Sorry I think this is another speculation which is not found in the NT.

How so?  If you read the second to the last post on page 806 like I requested, you’ll see that my argument is sound.  If you want to comment further to me on this particular subject, do so by quoting and rebutting the points I made in the aforementioned post.

Proclaimer:  Mike, I believed and still believe you were and are teaching lies on that subject.

A LIE is the INTENTIONAL act of PURPOSELY telling someone something that you KNOW is UNTRUE for the sole purpose of DECEIVING them.

Proclaimer: I even spelled out that to teach lies, one must be an intenional liar or deceived. I never said which c…

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Adam:  Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrews please.

Proclaimer: Young girl.

Isaiah 7:14… Therefore the LORD Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

So let us think logically.

1.  In what way would an ordinary woman giving an ordinary birth be c…

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Gene: Mike… The sown seed becomes another body of it’s “own” kind,  not a different kind,  so is it with the resurrection brother. 

I don’t see how you could conclude that it would be another body of it’s own kind, when Paul’s entire teaching was about how the heavenly body is DIFFERENT than the earthly body.  Paul even uses the word “changed” to…[Read more]

Adam: It seems to me that the Gospel writers were not agreeing to Paul’s view on the resurrection. The resurrected body of Jesus seemed to be the recitation of his crucified body

There is no disagreement, Adam.  Read my response to Gene in the second to the last post on page 80…[Read more]

Adam:  The Book of Daniel is a 2nd-century BCE biblical apocalypse with an ostensible 6th century BCE setting… he seems to know nothing about the reconstruction of the Temple or about the actual circumstances of Antiochus’ death in late 164 BCE. Chapters 10–12 must therefore have been written between 167 and 164 BCE. 

…Daniel is exclu…

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Adam:  Sorry my post on son of God with examples given was about human being called as son of God and not about spirit beings or angelic beings as you rightly mentioned. The context was about Messiah who was meant to be a human being as per the Hebrew Bible. Hope that will remove the confusion.

Adam, is it true that the Hebrews were expecting…[Read more]

Adam:  I think that is a gentle man’s agreement.

Agreed. 👍