Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 10 2008,08:51)Quote (meerkat @ Dec. 09 2008,13:32)Virgin mothers giving birth to divine offspring is of pagan origin.For the sperm to be of the Holy spirit means that the sperm was not of the physical seed of David but divine – so half flesh Mary and half divine HS   = pagan god/manHi meerkat, I am going through the site that…[Read more]

Because the Holy Spirit shows truth from error, I seek truth not tradition, I am not saying I have all truth but my desire is for the truth – and when something does not jive with what I am being shown and one scripture does not support another,  I will seek until I find not just ignore some scripture. I like these discussions – keep giving more…[Read more]

1 Ch 17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.1Ch 17:12He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.1Ch 17:13I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I…[Read more]

But God promised David that of {his}seed that the messish would be raised not that he would use the seed of the Holy Spirit

Virgin mothers giving birth to divine offspring is of pagan origin.For the sperm to be of the Holy spirit means that the sperm was not of the physical seed of David but divine – so half flesh Mary and half divine HS = pagan god/man

Jodi I think that the curse on Jeconiah – God might have cursed him but he also can lift that curse after repentance.Man seems to put limits on what God can and can not do and then builds traditions and theologies to support the limitations that they percieve.You might find this interesting…[Read more]

How is he the son of David?

Was he also a true son of david? – to be son of david he needed joseph as his father -otherwise he is the son of the holy spirit (x chromosome) and Mary (Y chromsome). And then we get into the fleshly God, divine son of God, who is God the Son theology.

Nick I have nothing against baptism – I was infant baptised and at 14 – however literal water does not clean anything but the skin (it is a symbol)It is a ritual that you can do but does not save or clean away your sinsWhenever baptism is used it does not specifically mean water it means immersion

1 John 4:3   And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.G4561σάρξsarxsarxProbably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal…[Read more]

Mary does not give Jesus his right to throne of David his Father. Mary has been elevated to Mother of God.Babylonian trinities have Father/ Mother/ Son – Mary and Holy Spirit in christianity seem to be tied togther somehow or interchangeable

Yes, That is what it seems that a switch has been done and a false Messiah has been elevated saying he is human BUT is also divine while in the flesh – but other parts of the scripture say that the old man (flesh) needs to crucified FIRST then resurrection by the Holy Spirit can take place – the Holy Spirit is not a magic wand that covers sin.

We are not to worship scripture, we are told to study scripture to see if it is true. The Roman Catholic church compiled the NT – we have no original documents that the NT came from.I do believe that most is intact – Satan is crafty (subtle) and does not always tell an outright lie – he twists it and mixes it.

So how was he made of the seed of David if he did not have a human father – Men have the chromosomes pairing of XY and women have the pairing of XX. – Both the egg and the spermatozoa have 23 chromosomes. – The egg is always the carrier of the X chromosome- The spermatozoa can carry either an X or a Y chromosome. This means that it is the male…[Read more]

I am wondering if this verse has anything to do with mixing the curruptible with divinity (saying Jesus MUST be born of a virgin)Rom 1:22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,Rom 1:23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping…[Read more]

Nick,Yes I agree and it cuts both ways – YOU need to be wary about seaching scripture to support theology. God has said it will be Davids SEED that will produce the Messiah, God raised Jesus from the dead BY THE HOLY SPIRIT

1 Jn 2:27 1Jo 2:27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.2 Th 2:10 2Th 2:10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;…[Read more]

NickThe Messiah was promised to be of the SEED of his Father David – then when you get to the NT he is the son of Mary and the Holy Ghost and we are told that he is the adopted son of Joseph – is there not a conflict here

Nick,     and And after judgement comes repentance comes life.G2919κρίνωkrinōkree'-noProperly to distinguish, that is, decide (mentally or judicially); by implication to try, condemn, punish: – avenge, conclude, condemn, damn, decree, determine, esteem, judge, go to (sue at the) law, ordain, call in question, sentence to, t…[Read more]

Thankfully ……………. Proverbs 16:9 says, “A man’s heart plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps.”