Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 12 2008,07:38)To receive a spirit body is the reward for obeying the gospel even unto death.The gift of God is life – it is not a reward

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2008,08:01)Hi mk, Here is our opportunity to die now and be reborn Rom63Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 12 2008,07:38)MeerkatWhere in the Bible does it say, that it was God's intention to change all humans into spirit beings/To receive a spirit body is the reward for obeying the gospel even unto death.Ps. 50:5 “Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.”Ps. 116:15 “Precious in the…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 12 2008,07:02)The lake of fire symbolizes total and everlasting destruction, from which there is no resurrection; fire destroys, it does not preserve; go take a look around in California.   GeorgGeorg I do agree with a lot of what you say – there are a few things that I would like to explore though if you want to.  When J…[Read more]

What is resurrection? – is it raising to life from the dead. What is that life (spirit)How can the fruits of the spirit be love, joy, peace etc when resurrection will involve a spirit enduring torment eternally?

Nick,As you say God and spirit beings are NOT embodied – so Jesus could not have been a spirit – then incarnated

Reincarnation is the incarnating again of a spirit, the spirit does not hop straight from one body to another, the idea is that the spirit which left a body, went back to God – then later is incarnated into a physical body. If we believe what Paul says that first is natural and then is spiritual – Jesus could not start out spiritual then…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 11 2008,15:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2008,12:15)CO, The words of Paul you quote are only for the saved.You need to listen to Jesus as he is the captain of salvation for all who come to him.NH.   Pauls words are for the ecclesia, the body of Christ, and for those who will be saved, all mankind.   Jesus words were to I…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 12 2008,03:13)MeerkatJesus came to die for our sins; but as Paul said in 1Cor. 15:22 “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”Regardless what your sins are now, we all die for Adam's sin; we are cursed with death even before we were born, even before we sinned. Those of us who now hear the gospel…[Read more]

Adam,I think that Sabbath does have a significance in as much as it is the day that God hallowed – he did that before Israel was named as his chosen nation (which is a type of spiritual Israel) I think the ordinances that were done away with was all the sacrificial feasts and days (they were a type for the passover lamb (Jesus) pentecost (spirit…[Read more]

I am finding that as the whole point of christianity is Jesus who came to save the whole world, how that salvation is viewed is very important and how the saviour is viewed as well and has a major impact on a lot of issues – like Grace, free will, trinity etc

Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 11 2008,11:28)How can the Bible say, Christ died for all; if not all will get a chance to hear the gospel and repent?Hi Irene,How do you view christ died for all, but not all have heard the gospel – so not all have the chance to repent (even before you get into deception of those who have heard the gospel and get led astray)

But Nick,I am a christian and am looking for a place to discuss things like trinity, salvation bible etc so that would not help at all.

1Pe 4:5Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.1Pe 4:6For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.From what I understand judgement is about reaping what you have sown, God is not…[Read more]

Works will not save, but all will be judged on their works ………… Jesus is the only way for salvation …. It is ALL God's mercy

You get banned from a lot of christian forums for voicing universal reconciliation from what I have seen and heard.

Also, if someone were seeking fellowship they would not choose christian universal reconciliation to find friends as it is a very small minority.

And I see lots of scripture …… you just don't believe the scripture

Thanks Nick!!

There is only one way ………….