Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 22 2010,04:44)Martian,We are all children of 'Man' through Adam.We become children of God through Christ.For the first sinned and we are in sin through that one, and through sin, the estrangement from the Father.But the second brought life and the hope of Sonship through faith in his testimony of the Father.luke 3 38the son…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2010,04:34)Quote (martian @ Aug. 22 2010,04:22)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2010,04:08)Hi Martian,This, however, is one that strongly points towards Jesus preexistence!John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.How can you possibly discount this verse…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 22 2010,03:57)Quote (barley @ Aug. 21 2010,11:47)Quote (martian @ Aug. 18 2010,03:58)Gene,There is a possibility I may have to go into the hospital again for a few weeks. I may not be on here for a while. You nad barley might be on your own for a while. I will see if my lap top is working or I can get a signal in the hospital…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2010,04:08)Hi Martian,This, however, is one that strongly points towards Jesus preexistence!John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.How can you possibly discount this verse into obscurity?God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 21 2010,11:13)Gene!  If that is the case then you have to deny a lot of Scriptures.  I simple do not think that all of them are wrong…. Then you might as well trow the Bible away, because the translators just wanted what they did.  And BTW it would not help their trinity doctrine at all.  So your theory does not stand…. Whe…[Read more]

Irene, You have been aghast that I ask what a spirit being is. I am asking you to teach me what you believe a spirit being is and how you come to that conclusion. Please show me from scripture what a spirit being is.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:15)Hi All,Ready for another one?John 8:38 (New International Version)38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father.”Does this not clearly say that the person Jesus had “seen” things “in the Father's presence”?peace and love,mikeFirst of all the NIV…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2010,03:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2010,03:01)martian…………Mike i think is truly struggling with his position on Preexistence and is considering all we are posting and hope fully is praying for GOD to guide His mind into the truth. I think he is a decent person brother he just has been indoctrinated as T8 and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2010,02:36)Quote (barley @ Aug. 21 2010,11:47)Quote (martian @ Aug. 18 2010,03:58)Gene,There is a possibility I may have to go into the hospital again for a few weeks. I may not be on here for a while. You nad barley might be on your own for a while. I will see if my lap top is working or I can get a signal in the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 21 2010,03:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,21:15)Hi All,Ready for another one?John 8:38 (New International Version)38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father.”Does this not clearly say that the person Jesus had “seen” things “in the Father's…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 21 2010,00:03)Quote (martian @ Aug. 20 2010,12:10)What happened to Enoch and elijah? Where did they go and where are they now?Read Hebrews, chapter 11.GeorgWhat happened to Enoch and and Elijah's bodies? What kind of body was it that Enoch had at the transfiguration?Where did they go when they left the Earth?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 21 2010,02:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 20 2010,02:24)Mike………Out of 536 times the word EV or En is used in scripture not ONCE does KJC say it is used for (BY).  If you want the breakdown i can give it to you brother. So a word that is not in the original text is planted…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2010,04:01)Quote (martian @ Aug. 19 2010,07:49)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2010,16:18)hi alli do not understand your miss conception of scriptures;if i tell you i am a project manager,then later tell you i am from Canada,and later tell i am 70 years old, and later tell you i am a father,and were i live i am the Maire…[Read more]

I am still waiting for a definition of Spirit as it is defined in scripture.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 19 2010,15:43)Martain,In Romans 3:13 we are told that those that either have not entered or do live according to the covenant of the spirit of righteousness are spoken of in scripture with the words:Romans 3:13(NIV) reads:Quote Their throats are open graves;      their tongues practice deceit.”These words are true as they ar…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2010,16:18)hi alli do not understand your miss conception of scriptures;if i tell you i am a project manager,then later tell you i am from Canada,and later tell i am 70 years old, and later tell you i am a father,and were i live i am the Maire and so on ;is there any way you can connect all of what i have said?so it is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 19 2010,00:40)KJ………..Do you also think John was so stupid that he forgot how to spell Jesus' name and could only come up with the Word “WORD” there also. Haven't you ever thought if John meant to mean Jesus he would have just wrote Jesus? My how Trinitariand and Preexistences can just force the written text to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 18 2010,20:10)To all,It is irrelevant if Martin knows Greek.  The question is if William Tyndale knew Greek when he chose the translation he did.  Martin gave his reasons for preferring Tyndale's translation over John Wycliffe's in this matter.   In conclusion if you prefer Wycliffe's then state why instead of making an ir…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 17 2010,08:01)Are you for real, asking what a Spirit Being is?   Now come on everybody should know that, if not then I would say they have not God's Holy Spirit living in them…..In John 3:4-8 Jesus explaines to Nicodemus what  Spirit is…. And so it is with Jesus, He was and is a Spirit Being….. IreneOK then please d…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 18 2010,08:46)Quote (martian @ Aug. 18 2010,03:54)Irene,You ask for scriptures that say Jesus is just like us?Hebrews 2:17
Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.There…[Read more]