Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,11:50)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 09 2007,10:50)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,10:05)Martian, no it was not.  But my point was that people can make a change, and you never what tool will work for someone.May I offer that I have received a few private emails from people who do not post (they lurk and read), and they possibly…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,10:05)Martian, no it was not.  But my point was that people can make a change, and you never what tool will work for someone.May I offer that I have received a few private emails from people who do not post (they lurk and read), and they possibly may change their opinions by the fruit of this ministry (you never…[Read more]

For those of you that think you have a right to judge another’s salvation — I am sorry to point this out but the position of “accuser of the brethren” is already taken so give it up. I find I am having a sort of Dejavue. All this accusation about people’s salvation reminds me of my studies of the inquisition. Unfortunately, even after hundred…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,04:18)“A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.”  I like that  Mainly because it's true of most everyone, myself included.However; I did change my opinion back in 2003 when I learned that the Trinity was not in the Bible (there explicitly taught).  I had nothing to gain by venturing into deep st…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 08 2007,18:59)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 08 2007,18:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2007,12:54)Hi not3,Those who build on tradition, as Paul initially built on Phariseeism, are speaking what their heart is full of when they express their hate of us. Our basis is completely different to theirs and is utterly challenged by the Word…[Read more]

Tim,I missed judged you and I must ask your forgivness. I thought you were purposefully ignoring proper principles of interpretation. I was wrong. The fact is you do not know any. As appropriately named. this is a waste of time.

Quote (Tim2 @ June 05 2007,18:45)Hi Martian,Thanks for that explanation.  I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I think you might be a little too bold in essentially declaring, “I know for certain that these are the motives and intentions of God, and I refuse to respond to any Scripture that might contradict what I perceive to be God's…[Read more]

It has been said that my posts to Tim amount to circular reasoning. I am not using circular reasoning and I will explain why. I am not using my conclusions to try to prove my interpretation process correct nor am I using my scriptural interpretations to prove my doctrine correct. Since neither Tim nor I will agree on an interpretation process, I…[Read more]

Tim,I started to explain in detail why the conclusions in your post were irrational and would not work, then I decided I needed to pick up the dog dodo outside. A much more pleasurable and profitable task then dealing with your conclusions. There is no significance to your scriptures if the end conclusions you draw from them goes against the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 03 2007,10:32)This thread started because Martian wanted to share what a waste of time this board really is.  May I suggest if you want to continue meaningful debates that you move to a thread where others can find you more easily.  As it stands now, this thread has one title of, “Waste of time.”It would be a shame for o…[Read more]

Where does it say this in the Bible? Philippians 2:7 says that Jesus took the form of a bond-servant. I don't believe that a bond-servant has free will, but must obey his owner.Response –What you believe or your opinion is not relavent. Are you going to tell me that bond servant/slave has no free will? Free will entitles the person to choose i…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ June 02 2007,15:30)Hi Martian,I said some of this in your function post but I'll try to answer some of your comments more directly here.I agree that believing in a person with two natures that do not mix is irrational, if both of the natures are of created beings. The natures of two created beings cannot coexist in one person without…[Read more]

I'll try to be rational here, ok? My first question is, on what basis do you translate the Hebrew in Genesis as “functional/dysfunctional,” rather than “good/evil”? Every Bible I've seen translates them as good and evil. How does the Septuagint translate them? Is there any scholarship you can show us to support this translation? A passage…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ June 02 2007,09:07)Quote Actually I was reading them to see if anyone would change their mind and wish to dicuss the reality of doctrine.Anyone but me?Tim, I mean no disrespect or personal judgment of you. I suspect that what you do you do innocently enough. I do believe that you are so entrenched in your doctrine that you are…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 02 2007,08:46)If you are not interested why are you reading this post?  Why are you responding at all?  I think you are interested but are puffed up with pride.  I disagree with you – this is a ministry.You're in my prayers.Actually I was reading them to see if anyone would change their mind and wish to dicuss the reality of…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 02 2007,02:46)Brother,Be encouraged.  Press on towards the prize!  We have not yet attained the prize but we work towards it.Not everyone will embrace your teaching.  Maybe no one will buy your book?  What then?  Never give up sharing and living the gospel.  Your reward will always be in heaven (paradise)….rarely is your…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ June 02 2007,05:21)Martian,I tried to talk to you about this in the dualism thread but you just called me irrational and refused to talk to me.  Do you want me to respond to your functionality post?Timnot interested

I tried one more time to post something that would actually make a difference in people's lives. It was ignored again. It seems no one is really interested in if their teaching actually does anything to help them or not.Too many on here ae doctrinal rather then functional. Doctrinal rather then relational. Doctrinal rather then scriptural. i was…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ May 31 2007,15:29)Martian,I cite the wide acceptance of the Definition of Chalcedon not as proof that it is true, but as encouragement for you to show us more respect.  Please engage us in polite discussion.The egg, the yoke, and the shell is a horrible analogy for the Trinity and I am ashamed that it has been used. My point with…[Read more]

Sorry my post did not go on. Here it is againYou say -Please calm down. I know you think the Definition of Chalcedon is irrational, but millions of Christians have believed it for 1500 years. Please don't just dismiss us. I've enjoyed talking about this with you, and I hope you will continue to do so.Response – What kind of argument is that? A…[Read more]