Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 16 2008,00:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,19:04)ALL (THINGS) THROUGH HIM CAME TO BE, AND APART FROM HIM3956 1223 0846_3 1096 2532 5565 0846_3egeneto oude henCAME TO BE NOT BUT ONE (THING).1096 3761 1520ho gegonenWHICH HAS COME TO BE3739 1096Notice the…AND APART FROM HIM3956 1223 0846_3 1096 2532 5565…[Read more]

Wj has several times used “600” scholars argument to support his theories. The following men are also well known scholars.Gerhard Kittel came from a very prestigious and scholarly family. Kittel was a professor of New Testament theology and a leading scholar in the field of Judaism and its relation to early Christianity.Paul Althaus was a pro…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,11:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2008,11:55)Hi WJ, Still confused between the Father and Son? He did not tell anyone to teach trinity and neither did the prophets speaking for God. So who is your Lord as you seem to be walking a path not recommended for you by God?MH'How many masters can you serve NH?One…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 14 2008,18:04)Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 14 2008,13:57)(1) Jesus does not share the attribute of being the God and Father of Jesus with his God and Father.http://tinyurl.com/3cvbucJesus is not the Father. Well yes. Modalists take note.Quote (2) Jesus does not share the attribute of being the only Most High with his God and…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 14 2008,18:04)Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 14 2008,13:57)(1) Jesus does not share the attribute of being the God and Father of Jesus with his God and Father.http://tinyurl.com/3cvbucJesus is not the Father. Well yes. Modalists take note.Quote (2) Jesus does not share the attribute of being the only Most High with his God and…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 14 2008,09:54)Yes martian I realized that you are right, the Father is greater than He; but Jesus sits at the Father's right hand in the heavenly realms. Exactly — Jesus has been temporarily givenb all power in heaven and Earth an sits in the highest position of power other then Gid.

Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 14 2008,09:11)John 5:18 18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.*They are equal but two seperate personages.The pharasees thought he made himself equal with God. Jesus never made such a claim. Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 12 2008,10:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 12 2008,10:25)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 12 2008,10:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 12 2008,10:01)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 12 2008,09:49)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 12 2008,09:48)Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 12 2008,09:43)Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 12 2008,09:39)Only the…[Read more]

And God is such an evil tasksmaster that He is real concerned about a matter of symatics. He judges by the heart not the language skills.Get over it!!!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2007,12:12)Hi martian, If a wheel falls off my lawnmower and is becomes dysfunctionaldoes that make it evil?Will your lawnmower fullfill it's function as it was designed. All doctrines, if of God are designed to help us to become like Christ. So-called doctrines that do not do this or actually hinder this process…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2007,03:58)Martian…..> the doctrine of Trinity deminnishes Jesus likeness of Us and causes us to seperate ourselves from likeness, it workes like this, we all know we are not god's so if we think Jesus is a God then we think we are not truly like Him, so a seperation accures in our identity with Jesus. The doctrine…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2007,12:54)Hi martian, Functionality may be an aspect of goodness but I do not eat apples just because they are functional. I do not buy paintings just because they are functional.Pragmatic usefulness is not all there is to beauty.I was not speaking of beauty in that beauty has nothing to do with functionality. If…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 10 2007,01:27)Quote (martian @ Dec. 08 2007,09:24)I have been off this site (mostly) for some time. I am not surprised that the arguments are still the same. The so called “proofs” people use are the same and nothing is changed or accomplished. I think there is a good reason for this. It is primarily due to the fact tha…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 09 2007,22:12)Hi T8,Quote Your judgement that it doesn't work is just your guess, but believe it or not, there are many who have learned from what is written here and there has been some great feedback from people who have seen arguments put to the sword.I think you may have misunderstood martian. He wasn't saying that this…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 09 2007,16:03)Hey Martian.How do you know it doesn't work?On every point you can hear the for and againsts, and then you can make your mind up. If a person is honest, then they can glean some great pearls of wisdom from here.There will always be die hard people who ignore truth. That will always be the case.Your judgement that it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2007,12:10)Hi martian, You say”The very point of Christ death on the cross was to wipe out our sins. ALL OUR SINS PAST PRSENT AND FUTURE. Our sins are as far as the East from the west and are no longer the object of concern.”Are all the sins of all forgiven already? “Being free from sin allows us to concentrate on the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2007,04:47)Hi Martian, I believe you have posted this before in another thread.Perhaos something much alike. I particularily like this condensed form. I know I have posted some of the truths from this section. Still think it is worthy of discussion.

No one wants to discuss this?

Quote (charity @ Dec. 06 2007,15:34)Hows your book coming along Matian?I have been very ill and not much stqamina to work on it. I am undergoing treatments every day for two hours and that tires me out a bit. I have to drive 60 miles one way for the treatments and then two hours there. Get a bit overwhelming at times.I hope to get back to it soon.

Quote (charity @ Dec. 06 2007,15:34)Hows your book coming along Matian?I have been very ill and not much stqamina to work on it. I am undergoing treatments every day for two hours and that tires me out a bit. I have to drive 60 miles one way for the treatments and then two hours there. Get a bit overwhelming at times.I hope to get back to it soon.