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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Sin does not reside in the body/flesh. The biblical definition of sin is “missing the mark”. The concept cones from the Hebrew concept of an Archer missing the target.The Torah was not a set of rules that if you broke them you were to be punished. The Torah/law w a set of guidleines passed down from Father to son to help them live productive…[Read more]

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    Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 23 2008,09:09)Quote (martian @ Jan. 22 2008,03:01)Ron,Could you please tell me the way you would explin these scriptur. I copy this from another forum. It was a response to me, made to defend the divinity of Christ and the Trinity.  I would appreciate your input on the verses.In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,07:19)Hi Martian. You say”Spiritual experiences are subject to the same things a scriptural interpretation. First – to the character of GodSecond – to the plan of God for Christ and the rest of humanityThird – To our own scriptural interpretation.”2Peter 120Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scrip…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,05:53)Quote (martian @ Jan. 23 2008,05:28)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,05:06)Hi Martian, You say”The saddest part is that many believe that knowing something in their head means that they have attained to that truth. You can study all the great writings on salvation, learn all the scriptures and hear a…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,05:06)Hi Martian, You say”The saddest part is that many believe that knowing something in their head means that they have attained to that truth. You can study all the great writings on salvation, learn all the scriptures and hear a million salvation messages, but until you experience the thrill of having your…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Mental ascension and intellectualized Christians always over complicate things with rhetoric and dogma that hides behind the guise of Godly doctrine.Rather then see a simple yet elegant and magnificent plan of God they insist on mystical formulas and accumulated head data to explain God. They use scripture/law as the end of all authority and with…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Ron,Could you please tell me the way you would explin these scriptur. I copy this from another forum. It was a response to me, made to defend the divinity of Christ and the Trinity. I would appreciate your input on the verses.In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, “Truly, truly, I say to you,…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 21 2008,08:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal withJn 1:14 John 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. — King James Version.The Word became flesh, and lived…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2008,09:13)RonI appreciate your response, however I will probably not be able to respond untill the first of the week.I will be going out of town over the weekend.You have left me a lot to respond to. Should be back the first of the week.Blessings!:)We will all wait with baited breath for Wj's return. Tune in next…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2008,06:19)martianI will answer your questions. Problem is when there are so many coming at me I have to limit my post.Ron and I have been exchanging post. I dont mean to be rude, but usually when two poeple are going at it then most of the time others watch and listen and maybe make a few comments here and…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    WJ,A few questions —How much authority is “ALL” authority? Does it mean all authority except the authority to speak to all men or dwell with all men? Can you show me a scripture that states that all authority is not all authority?Can you show me a scripture that details the authority or abilities Christ has now with the entire kingdom sub…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    WJ saysSeriously, Trinity aside, how can you view the image of the invisible God as anything less than God who has come in the flesh?Response –So according to your logic, if something is the image of the invisible God it is naturally God in the flesh? Let me quote a few scriptures with attendent questions — Genesis 1:27?God created man in His o…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,10:07)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,12:31)kenrchYou say…Quote Then the Word became flesh.  Does that mean that the Word God became flesh?  When the Word God became flesh the Word gave up being Word God to become as we are flesh born under the law.So God ceased to be God? So the eternal Word changed? God c…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    WJ,BTW, How much authority is “all”? You have said that a mere man could not hear all the prayers of evryone and speak to everyone. 1. What authority does Jesus now posses now that he is glorified and at the right hand of power in heaven?2. Was He able to speak to all men or hear all men while on Earth? Don't know. It is written that he did more…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,08:43)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 17 2008,08:40)Hi WJ, You quote Jn16 referring to the Spirit of God” 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    WJAll of the scriptures you quoted are about Jesus after his resurrection. Do we know exactly what power or authority he may have to speak to all humanity or dwell in them or be with them? We know that He sits on the right hand of authority in heaven. We know that He has all authority in heaven and Earth. We know that He is the Messiah and would…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,05:40)Quote (martian @ Jan. 17 2008,03:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,02:42)Quote (martian @ Jan. 17 2008,01:17)In discussions with other Christians, I have had to eat crow. I am sorry to say I am switching sides. I now know that God in his infinate wisdom and awsome Creation searched all the other…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,02:42)Quote (martian @ Jan. 17 2008,01:17)In discussions with other Christians, I have had to eat crow. I am sorry to say I am switching sides. I now know that God in his infinate wisdom and awsome Creation searched all the other inhabited planets and chose the extrterestrial Jesus to come to earth and be the…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,02:42)Quote (martian @ Jan. 17 2008,01:17)In discussions with other Christians, I have had to eat crow. I am sorry to say I am switching sides. I now know that God in his infinate wisdom and awsome Creation searched all the other inhabited planets and chose the extrterestrial Jesus to come to earth and be the…[Read more]

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    martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago

    In discussions with other Christians, I have had to eat crow. I am sorry to say I am switching sides. I now know that God in his infinate wisdom and awsome Creation searched all the other inhabited planets and chose the extrterestrial Jesus to come to earth and be the Messiah. In order for us to fullfill what God has for us we must be transmutated…[Read more]

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