Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,10:14)allin Gods eyes there is but one method to study the scriptures it is to read it and listen to what it says,if you go to religion made by men ,you will quickly start to feel there domination by the control of your will,the good news is for all of us interested to love and recognize there heavenly father and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2010,11:55)Okay Gene and Martian,I guess the scriptures have won this debate and the truth prevails……Thanks and Glory be the the Only True God, Jehovah, and His Son, through whom he created the universe.You guys cannot (and will not even try) to answer how if Jesus was already a human being while being considered…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2010,13:12)Quote (martian @ Sep. 10 2010,02:01)Stop hijacking the thread.Fair enough Martian.  I'll accept YOUR defeat graciously.mikeDo you really think that highly of yourself?At least there is one thing for sure. If I ever backslide, I will have your example of biblical interpretation and honesty with scripture to…[Read more]

Mike, I have not read this thread for some time and have no intention of doing so. I do not need to debate scripture with you. All I need do is remember that your methods are dishonest or shrouded in secrecy to see that I can no more trust your interpretations then I could trust a convicted child molester to run a day care.HOWEVER — I hope you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2010,14:20)Quote (martian @ Sep. 08 2010,02:06)Phil 2? I will not debate on the subject of scripture since you refuse to agree to any honest principles for interpretation. Are at the very least hide in a dark corner with the way you come to conclusions and say it is none of my business. There is no fruit in that. Just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2010,14:27)Quote (martian @ Sep. 08 2010,02:06)I never said Jesus did not have knowledge that we do not have. I said he could not have knowledge not available to us.  Big difference.It's not a difference at all.  All of Jesus' knowledge came from God in one way or another, right?Whether Jesus existed in heaven and saw t…[Read more]

Too bad most posts on this thread have little to do with the subject at hand. I guess it is proof enough that few on here want to be honest with scripture.

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 08 2010,10:41)Ed,What do you make of this verse that says YHWH is a man?Exd 15:3   The LORD a “man” of war: the LORD his name.  (KJV)this post shows your ignorance of the Hebrew language. There is no word “is” in the Hebrew language. The closest you can get is “functions as” or “relates to me as”

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2010,12:55)Quote (martian @ Sep. 07 2010,02:28)Mike says that Jesus carried knowledge into his Earthly life from his Pre-existence. Do you agree?If so, Then you must know that knowledge is what we base our decisions on. So Christ made decisions on info that is not available to us. How can we follow that? How can we…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 07 2010,08:11)Quote (martian @ Sep. 07 2010,02:28)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,13:53)Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,00:19)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope?  How does it do that?Where did I…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,07:33)There are many scholars out there and I thought that knowing God from the beginning would be helpful, however by the results of “Truth Check” thread it doesn't seem anyone really cares as Just Askin put it.The first time something is written about in the Bible usually has signigicant meaning and usually sets…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,13:53)Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,00:19)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope?  How does it do that?Where did I say that? Jesus gives me hope in what he did and said. His pre…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2010,02:13)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,07:37)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2010,06:58)Georg……So you say you only know ONE who is anointed right? So why did Jesus tell his disciples to not leave Jerusalem until the recieve (power) from on high and please tell us what is the comforter Jesus said He would send is.…[Read more]

n English we use masculine (he), feminine (she) and neuter (it). But, in Hebrew all things are either masculine or feminine, there is no neuter. So, we may say “it is a tree” in Hebrew it would be “hu ets” (he is a tree). All things in Hebrew are either masculine or feminine. God is neither male nor female but he is both. This may sound…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2010,06:30)Irene………So are you saying they do not teach that Jesus is GOD the creator of all thing, that he and the Father are one and the same they call the trinity . Now if Jesus is GOD the He had to preexist his berth on earth right, God certainly did preexist right. Preexistence and Trinitarians are both in…[Read more]

Greek thought views the world through the mind (abstract thought). Ancient Hebrew thought views the world through the senses (concrete thought).Concrete thought is the expression of concepts and ideas in ways that can be seen, touched, smelled, tasted and/or heard. All five of the senses are used when speaking and hearing and writing and reading…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,15:07)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 04 2010,20:07)Thanks guys,This is an interesting view on how people research Bible topics and subjects and why we get such non-Biblical perspectives, no?Let's debate the rock band….I was looking at the definition Biblically and for the Hebrew word, Ruwach.  Sorry I didn't make that clear…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope?  How does it do that?Where did I say that? Jesus gives me hope in what he did and said. His pre existence is just something I believe, because it is what the Bible…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope?  How does it do that?Where did I say that? Jesus gives me hope in what he did and said. His pre existence is just something I believe, because it is what the Bible…[Read more]

George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope? How does it do that?