martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,09:32)Hi Martian, Then you need to be born again.Rom89But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,09:32)Hi Martian, Then you need to be born again.Rom89But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,05:50)Hi Martian, Gen 2.77 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. We know Adam was not infilled with the Spirit of God but just given life by the breath of God. If Adam was given the Spirit of God and not his human…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Continuing the look at the Trinity, it is interesting the way in which the OT deals with the Spirit. The word most often translated in Hebrew as “spirit” is “ruahh”From the very beginning it is obvious that God’s breath was the animating force that Gave Adam life. This is continued in the rest of humanity as is made clear in Job —Job 273For as…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 15 2008,09:53)Nick; The trinity doctrine isn't the enemy. Many good men and women of God embrace the doctrine, probably for lack of knowledge and a better understanding. The trinity doctrine doesn't actually claim to understand the godhead. Most teachers of the trinity begin their lessons with the caveat that we do no…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 15 2008,05:07)martian……..> I also believe it's experience with the Father that produces true faith. I know we have recieved the forgivness of our sins through the sacrifice of Jesus, but even the Father provided that also. This whole shift today in total focuse on Jesus, is like the saying, “rob Peter and pay Paul.…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2008,08:59)Quote (martian @ Feb. 14 2008,08:47)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 14 2008,08:29)Martian;What was that you were sharing yesterday about being like Christ?I was speaking of this venue and not about any person at all. Nick got offended for no reason.Hi martian. No offense.Presenting a pragmatic theory without…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2008,07:36)Hi martian, Is a certain amount of love not helpful, even functional?I have no problem loving anyone on this board. Even when the tensions are high. I just see a more limited value for this type of venue then you do.I have no problems with the people just do not see much value in this venue other then…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 14 2008,08:29)Martian;What was that you were sharing yesterday about being like Christ?I was speaking of this venue and not about any person at all. Nick got offended for no reason.
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2008,05:37)Quote (martian @ Feb. 14 2008,02:29)Quote (Samuel @ Feb. 13 2008,11:59)I honestly can't see how a debate such as this can be fogging up the mind of Christians.No matter weather we believe in a Triune GOD or a Oneness GOD…Still the only name by which we are going to be found without sin, and or be forgiven…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Samuel @ Feb. 13 2008,11:59)I honestly can't see how a debate such as this can be fogging up the mind of Christians.No matter weather we believe in a Triune GOD or a Oneness GOD…Still the only name by which we are going to be found without sin, and or be forgiven of sin and allowed to enter the kingdom of heaven is the name JESUS…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 13 2008,11:17)Quote (martian @ Feb. 13 2008,06:29)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 13 2008,04:06)Quote The problem with your idea is exemplified on this board.Martian;Upon what facts do you support your contention of the above with respect to my posts?StevenI was refering to the fact that reading English translations…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 13 2008,04:06)Quote The problem with your idea is exemplified on this board.Martian;Upon what facts do you support your contention of the above with respect to my posts?StevenI was refering to the fact that reading English translations and giving opinions of what God means has little credibility for any of us.That is the…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
What does it mean to be created in the image of God?Genesis 1:27?God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.Looking at two words in the Hebrew bring a clearer understanding of this verse.Create in this verse is the word “bara”. It does not mean to create from nothing. Creating from not…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 12 2008,11:00)Quote Really the scripture is the only way you can know Jesus? You do not know Christ experiancially? So you ar saying that all you know is what you have read in scripture about salvation? You have never experianced salvation?So mentally knowing that we are supposed to be like Christ is enough? We do not…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 12 2008,09:57)Quote The first is to understand that scripture is not the measuring rod or the standard by which we or our doctrines are judged.Hi Martian;I'm not sure what you may be referring to that I have presented which conflicts with your beliefs. However, when you say that the scripture is not the measuring rod I…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 12 2008,09:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2008,09:08)Hi Steve, Does this knowledge make him so different from us?He is not recorded as speaking of this knowledge before he was anointed at the Jordan.One of the roles of the Spirit is to teach and remind so I would expect he did not know all the detail of his…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Mr. Steve,I could go into a Western Thinking diatribe of scriptural proofs and dissecting Greek verbs ect and Yadi Yadi Yadi.There are certainly things that are important to be considered part of the Christian faith.The first is to understand that scripture is not the measuring rod or the standard by which we or our doctrines are judged. Jesus is…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 12 2008,05:11)Quote If Jesus is anything other then simply human then everyting He did by way of example is not valid. Even if you assume preexistance (a big leap) you cannot allow that preexistance to give Jesus any advantage over the rest of humanity or you make his example not valid. Upon what scriptures do you make this…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 1 month ago
Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 10 2008,05:44)Quote (martian @ Feb. 10 2008,05:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2008,04:50)Hi Martian, You said”Now to Phil 4. Notice the context is set from the very beginning. It is not about proof of divinity for Jesus but rather about the attitude Christ had. Here the context is set of comparing the first…[Read more]
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