Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,07:33)Hi martian, Can you clarify as your response was not functional.I do not take you too sriously because you have some of the same false premisses as the Trinitarians. Preexistant Christ. inherited sin nature (calvinism)You keep trying to disprove the Trnity while at the same time hold onto some of the root…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 26 2008,08:59)Hello martian, You mentioned earlier:”If I understand you post correctly you compare the Body Soul and Spirit of man to the Trinity. The analogy falls completely apart when you consider that the primary tennant of the Trinity is that ther are three “Persons” of the Trinity. “(Three parts but one God “hear o…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,05:38)Hi Martian, Are you speaking of eternal life? Yes through the Son of God, the one by whom the fountain of life springs up.Adam did not share this blessing but was made a living spirit by the breath of God and had to go to the well daily for natural life.Ecclesiastes 12 1Remember now thy Creator in the days…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,04:48)Quote (martian @ Feb. 26 2008,02:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2008,08:44)Hi WJ, His son was SENT INTO THE WORLD. He BROUGHT HIS SON INTO THE WORLD.So unless God is a midwife, and that is ridiculous, the Son existed prior to his coming into the world.So according to you the fact that Jesus was sent into…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 25 2008,07:04)Hello all, here is the scripture.I corinthians chap 2 vrs 10-11 (niv)10) but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11) For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2008,08:44)Hi WJ, His son was SENT INTO THE WORLD. He BROUGHT HIS SON INTO THE WORLD.So unless God is a midwife, and that is ridiculous, the Son existed prior to his coming into the world.So according to you the fact that Jesus was sent into the world proves existance before his human birth?John 17:18″As You sent Me…[Read more]

Preexistant Christ question?For those that believe in a Preexistnt Christ.Can you tell me the form in which Christ appeared in his preexistance? Was He conscious of the universe around Him? Did He have knowledge of who God was and who He was? Did He have fore knowledge of that which He was to do?Most important, did any of the above things effect…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 23 2008,07:37)Martian I apologize if I gave the wrong impression after reading your response about intellectualizing. I appreciate you restating your position on how you test things to see if the theory will hold up (do not like using the word doctrine maybe its my intellectual western thinking ha ha) I will try to keep my…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 23 2008,00:29)Hello everyone, writing a quick response will post a deeper one later. I am sitting in my office and looking at the color red. Besides lettering and some pictures and symbols in my office there is very little red.(possibly 5% of the total view.) yet I find what I am looking for because I am looking for red.…[Read more]

The primary problem with the Calvinistic concept is that it makes God foolish. It is not functional within the plan or attributes of God. God has a plan to have children that will love Him and honor Him.God knows that only love and honor that is given from a free will has merit. What value is there in having a robot that is programmed to come to…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 21 2008,08:01)Hello all been along time (but I have been quietly reading along for about 40 or so pages and finally have some time to wade in.) Like martian mentioned earlier this is just a board of opinions and like others I enjoy testing my opinions just like everyone else. With that out of the way here we go again.The…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 21 2008,04:09)Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 21 2008,03:30)FALSE. There is no Trinity. God the Father and Jesus Christ are the only two. The only two in heaven.Hi and welcome if you want those that belief in the trinity to belief what you are saying, you need to say more then that. I do not belief either that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 20 2008,12:43)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Feb. 20 2008,06:05)Gene;Why did Jesus say either make the tree good or make it corrupt?Where in the sermon on the mount does Jesus imply we are helpless to do the will of God?Quote Jesus is an example of God's saving Work…So was he lost at one time Gene?Quote Jesus' choices did not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2008,05:24)Hi martian, So taking a right attitude to God is all you need to do to be saved? Who decides if it is right enough?Proverbs 14:12There is a way which seems right to a man,But its end is the way of death.In the new covenant salvation is based on one simple thing. The belief that Christ died for your sins and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2008,08:06)Quote (martian @ Feb. 18 2008,07:48)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2008,05:27)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 18 2008,02:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,12:20)Hi martian, So your claim to be a son of God is because Adam was your dad and God was his? The Jews tried that one and it proved dysfunctional.Odd considering…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2008,07:20)Hi martian, You say”Repentance is not just about getting forgiven, but about turning from our faults and overcoming” So all men must repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of their sins and they will receive the giftof the Holy Spirit. YESAre you bored or something? You ust throw out stuff to keep the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2008,05:27)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 18 2008,02:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,12:20)Hi martian, So your claim to be a son of God is because Adam was your dad and God was his? The Jews tried that one and it proved dysfunctional.Odd considering that it was God who made this original arrangement according to the OT…Hi…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2008,05:31)Quote (martian @ Feb. 18 2008,01:31)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2008,17:24)Quote (martian @ Feb. 17 2008,02:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,09:32)Hi Martian, Then you need to be born again.Rom89But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man…[Read more]

In Luke 2: 41-52 we see the story of Jesus confounding the temple preasts at 12 years old. Several things are clear in this passage. (41 – 42) Jesus was raised in, and followed the Hebrew Customs of the time.(42 – 50) Jesus had an agenda that went beyond his earthly parentage of Mary or the teaching of Joseph. He was being raised by his real…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2008,17:24)Quote (martian @ Feb. 17 2008,02:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,09:32)Hi Martian, Then you need to be born again.Rom89But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in…[Read more]