You know I just received news that my mentor, teacher, pastor and best friend had a heart attack last night. When faced with real life issues like that all of this petty squbling on a web site seems even more pointless and silly.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 24 2008,08:53)To all…………I think martain is more frustrated then anything else, I have experienced the same thing here. We all want to hold on to what we (think) we know, but the truth is we Know nothing like we UT to Know. If we hold to our opinions with out opening up to other possibilities we close off and can…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 24 2008,04:36)Martian It is so sad that you are so angry. I just like to know why?  We all know that this website has always been for debating, and if you don't like it you can always leave, right? It is your choice. Even tho I came on here to fellowship I too had to realize that this is not a Church, just a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2008,08:31)Martian and all,This message board can be used for good by God and it also can be used to destroy. It IS possible to sharpen one another with debate done with wisdom and love.Prov 27:1717 Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another. 1 Cor 16:13-1413 Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men,…[Read more]

Now I am outta here for the day.Hope you all ahve a good Easter if ou celebrate that holiday.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2008,06:53)Hi martian, You too can learn. You should listen.Listen to what? The same old dog and pony show? It is a brolen record that I have refuted and dismissed 30 years ago. No one has shown me one proof text that I have not already studied and rejected as proof of their claim.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2008,06:18)Hi martian, You say”Are you on here for the same reasons I am on here?  I am on hee for pure entertainment purposes. I do not expect to have my opinions changed nor do I expect to cjhange anyone elses. You and NH seem to think this is some kind of a ministry and seem to actualy believe that you will change…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2008,04:51)Martian,You say:”I am on hee for pure entertainment purposes. I do not expect to have my opinions changed nor do I expect to cjhange anyone elses. You and NH seem to think this is some kind of a ministry and seem to actualy believe that you will change the others mind or at least have some impact on the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 20 2008,05:39)Martian…… I have a request of you, would you go to Finding Believers  web site and explain your views on some of these subjects.peace to you and yours…………geneIs “Finders Believers” another mesage board? I may not have the time for another one. I am already on three of them. I will, however look at it.

Quote (martian @ Mar. 23 2008,04:15)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 20 2008,06:47)martianFirst of all yoiu are talking about one Gospel out of 27 NT books. Second you say…Quote In closing lightenup, how much credence can you put in what WJ has to say when after years of Nick and others writing him concerning the Trinity, he still hangs onto that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 20 2008,06:47)martianFirst of all yoiu are talking about one Gospel out of 27 NT books. Second you say…Quote In closing lightenup, how much credence can you put in what WJ has to say when after years of Nick and others writing him concerning the Trinity, he still hangs onto that pagan blasphemy. This is insulting…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2008,04:45)Hi Martian,I really do not want to discuss about WJ with you.  For know, I just want to know if you use the Strong's concordance/dictionary in your studies?I do however since I use the NAS for most study, I ust that concordance in most cases. It is very much like strongs. I also cross refference with strongs.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 20 2008,06:47)martianFirst of all yoiu are talking about one Gospel out of 27 NT books. Second you say…Quote In closing lightenup, how much credence can you put in what WJ has to say when after years of Nick and others writing him concerning the Trinity, he still hangs onto that pagan blasphemy. This is insulting…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,11:07)Quote (martian @ Mar. 19 2008,08:32)Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,07:46)Martian All that I am going to say to, is that you are trying to take scripture apart and make something else out of it. To me that is not what it is. You either believe what scripture says or not, I for one…[Read more]

Lightenup -Ah Yes, Here comes WJ with his reliance on the 600 scholars and degrees. Such silliness. I have never claimed to have a degree in Greek or Hebrew. So What! I can read a book or search an educational web site. I am sure that WJ’s 600 scholars thought they were doing the right thing. Just like the translators of the KJV that mislead m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2008,11:34)Hello Martian,I am trying to grasp this Hebrew way of thought as “function”.  Meanwhile, I would like to know why the definition of the greek word “en”, according to Strong's #1722 can be translated as “by” or “in” but according to you, if I understand you correctly, “by” isn't even an option and it must be…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,07:46)Martian All that I am going to say to, is that you are trying to take scripture apart and make something else out of it. To me that is not what it is. You either believe what scripture says or not, I for one believe what the word of God teaches, rather then what men, like you do. Thank you for…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,04:40)Quote (martian @ Mar. 19 2008,04:21)Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,04:10)Quote (martian @ Mar. 19 2008,02:43)Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 18 2008,16:14)Quote (martian @ Mar. 18 2008,10:59)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Mar. 18 2008,08:01)Martian:John and Paul both taught that all thing…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 19 2008,04:10)Quote (martian @ Mar. 19 2008,02:43)Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 18 2008,16:14)Quote (martian @ Mar. 18 2008,10:59)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Mar. 18 2008,08:01)Martian:John and Paul both taught that all thing were made by him (Christ) and for him.  This is no mystery.  He is above all. Jesus h…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 18 2008,16:14)Quote (martian @ Mar. 18 2008,10:59)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Mar. 18 2008,08:01)Martian:John and Paul both taught that all thing were made by him (Christ) and for him.  This is no mystery.  He is above all. Jesus himself said he was going back to the Father from where he was sent.  Pre-existence is ab…[Read more]