Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 31 2008,06:20)So, if we agree then, on these guidelines allow me to ask you a question:Could Genesis chapter 1 be speaking of two different lights, the one on day one and the one on day four.  Why or why not.I began to write a whole disertation to explain Gen 1 and then realised that The Ancient Hebrew Research Center had…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,11:11)Hi martian, So if I do not agree with you on how to interpret scripture then I am only expressing a dishonest opinion. Your views continue to amaze.It is not about agreeing with me. You keep making it personal. It is about both agreeing with a set of principes that will honestly interpret the scripture.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,08:55)Hi martian, You say”This sounds like you are inputting a doctrine here. It sounds like you are already indicating that Christ had an existence other then when he became flesh. This is exactly what these principles are designed to do is stop the interpretation that filters things through a preconceived idea…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2008,11:47)Hi Martian,I'm sorry that you have had to deal with alot of health issues.  I hope that you are done with surgeries for a good while now.  One of my best friends is in a wheelchair because of MS or mold we aren't sure.  I hope you get out of it soon.  It does slow life down abit and give you more time for spi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2008,06:22)Hi  Martian,I think that maybe you have much more time to be on here than I do.  I am a busy mom with limited time.  I have spent alot of time on here initially and now see the need to wrestle with truth more on my own.  So, a rapid response discussion is not what you will get from me.  I want to study more…[Read more]

I will assume there are some that read these forums that are actually interested in truth more then proof. For them I will post a set of interpretation principles I have found usefull.In order to properly understand scripture one must first understand the purpose for scripture. Scripture is the broad outline of God’s general plan to bring about H…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2008,04:53)Hi Martian,I hope that your friend is doing better.  My dad has had years of heart trouble and some major surgeries.  I know that is hard.Truly, Martian, I'm not sure that I want to be part of your “game” if you are not going to consider my input and take it to heart and then have kind responses whether in f…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2008,04:53)Hi Martian,I hope that your friend is doing better.  My dad has had years of heart trouble and some major surgeries.  I know that is hard.Truly, Martian, I'm not sure that I want to be part of your “game” if you are not going to consider my input and take it to heart and then have kind responses whether in f…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2008,04:53)Hi Martian,I hope that your friend is doing better.  My dad has had years of heart trouble and some major surgeries.  I know that is hard.Truly, Martian, I'm not sure that I want to be part of your “game” if you are not going to consider my input and take it to heart and then have kind responses whether in f…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2008,04:53)Hi Martian,I hope that your friend is doing better.  My dad has had years of heart trouble and some major surgeries.  I know that is hard.Truly, Martian, I'm not sure that I want to be part of your “game” if you are not going to consider my input and take it to heart and then have kind responses whether in f…[Read more]

Hey lightenup. Where are you? I was enjoying our discussion.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,07:16)Hi martian, I do not think you offend anyone here but you do raise concerns about yourself.Now you speak of me calling people stupid when I did not. And you turn to a personal reference to speak of me as if to say you have concerns about me. LOL You know the same exact thing was said to me by a Moonie…[Read more]

Nick,I am outta here for a while, but thanks for playing.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,06:53)Hi martian, You actually said” I can understand that many Christians are ignorant of the proper way to study scripture. That is really only a matter of educating them, but when it is made clear to some and they brush it aside in order to protect their doctrines, I worry for their well being. It reminds me of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,06:47)Hi, Trinity is a dogma not a bible teaching.Following Christ in maturity demands we put aside what others have taughtAnd go straight to the meat of scriptureHow do you konw what is the actual “meat of scripture” An opinion?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,06:21)Hi martian, You accuse other teachers of being stupid. But you teach very fallibly too so how can you avoid this appellation?Constantly negativity towards all others here while putting yourself on a pedestal is quite revealing.Oh by the way. I accused no particualr person or group of people of being stupid.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,06:21)Hi martian, You accuse other teachers of being stupid. But you teach very fallibly too so how can you avoid this appellation?Constantly negativity towards all others here while putting yourself on a pedestal is quite revealing.Show me where I have taught wrong? Before you do you will have to agree with me on…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,05:59)Hi martian, If you cannot learn from the work of God among us then it does say something about you.What work would that be?

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 27 2008,04:50)Quote (martian @ Mar. 27 2008,03:53)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2008,06:53)Hi martian, You too can learn. You should listen.Nick, you have suggested that I try to learn something from the others on here. You suggest that I should listed and learn. Learn from who? Those that have little or no…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2008,06:53)Hi martian, You too can learn. You should listen.Nick, you have suggested that I try to learn something from the others on here. You suggest that I should listed and learn. Learn from who? Those that have little or no understanding of how to interpret scripture? How can I learn from people that from the…[Read more]