Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,22:10)Martian!  One more thing.  Why don't you go to Germany, and learn German, and we will see how many mistakes you will make, as far as your education on that language  goes……Irene:( What does that have to do with anything. I am sure I would make mistakes learning a new language. All the more reason that if yo…[Read more]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2010,07:24)Quote (martian @ Sep. 20 2010,04:03)To the point of this thread.Your doctrine’s fruit is doubt of Christ as our perfect example. Questions about God’s intentions for a pre-existent son. Contradictions with scripture that says He is like us (his brethren) in EVERY way or that he was human at all.Hi Mar…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2010,13:06)Hi Martian,You said:Quote You say he is different from birth so he is different then us, How can he be an example if he is different?What does that even mean?  That's the “monkey” point I was trying to make a while back.  A being doesn't have to be exactly like us to be an example…..and I can't for the l…[Read more]

There is much more to walking with God then concentrating on sin and forgiveness. How do we become like Christ?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2010,14:42)Hey Gene,Start a thread if you have scriptures/questions you think I've avoided.  But right now, Martian is crying again because he's not getting his own way in his own thread, so we better stay on topic (which is a silly one anyway).Here's my fruit Martian:John 17:3 NWT3 This means everlasting life, their t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2010,14:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2010,02:22)Mike………..That is the difference alright , you preexistence give Jesus a great advantage over us humans , so why then relate with him on any human levelGene, Jesus is my Lord and Savior.  He is my King and the much beloved Son of my God who chose to give him all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 17 2010,14:42)Hey Gene,Start a thread if you have scriptures/questions you think I've avoided.  But right now, Martian is crying again because he's not getting his own way in his own thread, so we better stay on topic (which is a silly one anyway).Here's my fruit Martian:John 17:3 NWT3 This means everlasting life, their t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2010,13:34)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 14 2010,10:43)Quote (martian @ Aug. 09 2010,09:33)Some have shown disdain for the methods by which I interpret scripture. To show I am not alone I give you this author which says the same as me.http://www.intergate.com/~jcordaro/study_Bible.htmlRules of Interpretation In addition…[Read more]

Gene,I would appreciate if you would stop engaging mike about his subjects and not mine. This thread is about the fruit of doctrine. Not about whether anyone can (right or wrong) prove it scripturally. As long as you give Mike an avenue he is going to push his agenda. Let him go back to his dishonest scriptural debates on other threads. If he…[Read more]

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Mike and Baker,How about you stop trolling for reaction and stick to the subject of the thread. The subject is fruit. Show me the good fruit of your doctrines.

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 11 2010,10:23)Quote (martian @ Sep. 07 2010,10:39)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 07 2010,08:11)Quote (martian @ Sep. 07 2010,02:28)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,13:53)Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,00:19)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2010,14:30)Quote (martian @ Sep. 10 2010,01:59)Any one with any common sense will know that first hand knowledge is going to be superior then something told to us (even by God)So were John's visions in Rev “first hand knowledge”?  He SAW with his own eyes what was to come.  Didn't that give John an advantage over the r…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 13 2010,13:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 13 2010,10:19)MIke……..John was (exactly) like us and any other Human being as well as Jesus also. GOD can give anyone He so choses anything He desires to. that Does not make that person any better then anyone else nor makes Him any different then we are. Can't you see how…[Read more]

What's the Fruit.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2010,02:31)Quote (martian @ Sep. 12 2010,01:57)Seems Mike has his buddies at work again. I blasted Mike's interpretation principles and he complained and got me warned.  Poor baby.When we were discussing learning the character of Christ he compared it to three year olds learning to climb trees like monkeys. Those were…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2010,02:10)Quote (martian @ Sep. 11 2010,01:40)Declare your victory. It is a very small thing on a forum.Hi Martian,Does this mean you now admit “preexistence” is FACT?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAfraid not. Just letting Mike play the forum game. Declaring it does not make it so. Saying you…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 11 2010,05:53)Quote (martian @ Sep. 11 2010,01:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2010,11:55)Okay Gene and Martian,I guess the scriptures have won this debate and the truth prevails……Thanks and Glory be the the Only True God, Jehovah, and His Son, through whom he created the universe.You guys cannot (and will not even try) to…[Read more]

Seems Mike has his buddies at work again. I blasted Mike's interpretation principles and he complained and got me warned. Poor baby.