Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 19 2009,06:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 18 2009,13:52)Hi martian, He became like the Father because the spirit of the Father lived in him and led him.  We should follow himMatthew 10:20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.Hi Nick,Where does it say that Jesus “became” like His…[Read more]

Perhaps you should brace yourself, because you are dangerously close to falling into the same trap as the Jews of Jesus time. They constantly rejected Jesus, claiming that this was a man (human) that blasphemes. Even in the midst of mighty miracles and proofs they could not see how a man (human) could be the Messiah. I can imagine them after the…[Read more]

In Revelation (also written by John) He makes it clear that the plan of God/His idea was something separate from the fulfillment of that plan.Rev 1: 2who testified to the word (logos) of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.John was witness to the overall plan of God, of God’s expression of his idea and to the f…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Jan. 18 2009,13:36)You wrote:One of the primary tennants of biblical interpretation is to line up our definitions of words with the language and then cross reference them with other times that word is used.An even more basic tenant of interpretation is that context determines meaning.Your volumes of passages do not and cannot…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Jan. 18 2009,13:36)You wrote:One of the primary tennants of biblical interpretation is to line up our definitions of words with the language and then cross reference them with other times that word is used.An even more basic tenant of interpretation is that context determines meaning.Your volumes of passages do not and cannot…[Read more]

It is curious that those that claim Jesus is a coequal God with YHWH ignor these verses —(1 Cor. 15/22-28 ) For just as in Adam all people die, in the same way also all people will be made alive in the Anointed One (Christ). But each one will do so by his own arrangement. The Anointed One was a first fruit. After that, those who were the…[Read more]

One of the primary tennants of biblical interpretation is to line up our definitions of words with the language and then cross reference them with other times that word is used. Especially by the same author. If Word/Logos literally means Jesus in John 1 then it should mean Jesus everywhere else in scripture.36 times Logos is used in the Book of…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 16 2009,17:48)Quote It would be easier for me if Jesus had adamantly rejected the worship of men and directed them to worship the Father when they where worshipping him.–seekingThe thing is, Seeking, we don't know anyone was “worshipping” him.  The word found in Greek that is often translated wrongly is proskyneo (or…[Read more]

Let me give a prime example of falling into some of the faulty interpretation processes I posted earlier.Isa 9:6 6For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.…[Read more]

I have found that most who cling to the Trinitarian theory fall into one of five faults when interpreting scripture.1. They rely on English translations rather then digging into the original languages to see what was really written.2. They do not consider the context (immediate or overall) in which the verse is located.3. They do not consider the…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Jan. 16 2009,09:13)Peter was clear it was Jesus that did the healing and the raising, not he -Peter    “And Peter said unto him, Aeneas, Jesus Christ maketh thee whole: arise, and make thy bed. And he arose immediately.” (Acts 9:34 KJV)Peter was quite clear that he was not anything like Jesus and,for example, was not deserving o…[Read more]

From a standpoint of reality, the trinity does not work. Oh, you can say it does and site multitudes of scripture from a mental perspective, but the fact still remains that the comcept does not follow reason. It does not function for the purposes of making us like Christ.If you change Jesus in any way from pure and normal humanity, you then deny…[Read more]

So what does it mean to cooperate/work with God? How do we do that?Give examples if you can.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 13 2009,13:57)meerkat……..I agree with your post. Good post. peace and love to you……………….geneWere yopu meaning martian instead of meekrat? I did not see a post by meekrat?

If you will – please read the verses I posted such as —“The community is to have the same rules (huqah) for you and for the alien living among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the alien shall be the same before the LORD: The same Torah and regulations (mishpat) will apply both to you and to the alien living…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2009,06:55)Hi martian, And the Torah points to salvation of Jew and gentile as one in Jesus Christexactly right

Quote (SEEKING @ Jan. 14 2009,09:05)Martian,I don't believe I am “assuming”  regarding Jn.1:1.  I do not know of any scholars that do not accept that the “Word”used ther refers to none other than Jesus.It is an unfortunate fact that many scholars do not use proper principles for inter[reting scripture. I know of several scholars that do not t…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Jan. 14 2009,08:13)You cite Jn.1:1 'The Word (Jesus) was with God.'  Completing the verse we read, “and the Word was God.”I appreciate your efforts, but I am left to answer what the UCG article quoted is implying.  Perhaps there is a balance of understanding being missed.You are assuming that the term “wped” can literally be t…[Read more]

From the Ancient Hebrew Research Center —–The AliensIs God's covenant then a restricted membership to Israel only? Absolutely not. Any foreigner who wishes to join the community of Israel may do so, by accepting the covenant and taking on the sign of the covenant, circumcision. These foreigners are now considered aliens(ger in Hebrew) and are…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 13 2009,08:26)Nick……..Intellect of Man is what GOD gave Him to use and now are you saying that it is useless for anything. Then God must have made a Hugh mistake giving us it right. If i removed you intellect you would be a zombie and wouldn't even know how to put you shoe on, much less what any thing meant. There…[Read more]