Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,07:30)Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks.  BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light.  The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars.  I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, etc. but I can't agree with the co…[Read more]

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,There is a great deal of evidence that Matthew was originally written in Hebrew. If one translates this verse back into Hebrew it gives a much fuller picture.First let’s define some of the key words from a Hebrew p…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 30 2009,16:14)Hi Marty,Do you not think it possible to change body forms?  To go from a heavenly body to an earthly body?We are hoping to change from an earthly body to a heavenly body.  While in our new heavenly body we will be able to say that we existed in a time before we had that heavenly body if we have access to t…[Read more]

Cindy -I offer tis as a good starting place to understand Genesis and Creation.The Poetry of Genesis Chapter OneBy Jeff A. BennerWhen we read Genesis chapter one we usually see only one story there, but there are actually many stories. Why don't we see these multiple stories? Because we read the Hebrew Bible from a Modern Western thinkers point of…[Read more]

Thethinker —I do not feel you will accept this explanation nor any explanation that goes against your doctrine, but for entertainment sake here goes.I am going to repeat some info for clarity sake and then I am done, unless you choose to support your opinions or refute mine with sources.On page 189 I posted a study on the way in which the people…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2009,19:38)Martian said:Quote I will get back to you on the John 5 issue.Martian, I am looking forward to it. As I said, I have been waiting for a Unitarian to overcome this.God speed,thinkerThethinkerFor some reason you seem to think you have some authority to demand I answer your questions, while at the same time you…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2009,10:06)Martian said:Quote In Genesis 1:27 the term image is defined by the word form. This definition is verified by Strong’s concordance.Edermans New Bible Dictionary defines image as “The word is used throughout the Bible to denote a material representation in animal human or mixed form.”Zondervan Pictorial Dicti…[Read more]

thethinkerIn Genesis 1:27 the term image is defined by the word form. This definition is verified by Strong’s concordance.Edermans New Bible Dictionary defines image as “The word is used throughout the Bible to denote a material representation in animal human or mixed form.”Zondervan Pictorial Dictionary “The words “image” and “likeness”…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2009,08:05)Martian said:Quote My info on image meaninf form comes from the ancient Hebrew text and verified by the Ancient Hebrew Lexicon. Where does your proof against it come from, Your doctrine?  In otherwords it can't mean what I said cause it messes up your doctrine.Martian,You need to do two things. First, show…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Jan. 28 2009,13:30)Martian!  Even though I do not believe in a trinity doctrine, I do believe in a preexisting of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why God did this I am not sure, but I do speculate on that. First late me prove the preexisting to you. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God.    …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 29 2009,05:11)Quote (martian @ Jan. 28 2009,10:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,09:59)Hi M,You said”Jesus had the same character of God breathed into him. He never made a wrong choice all through his confrontation/maturing process. He never gave up His position as a son with dominion over the Earth. This is why He…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 28 2009,20:47)Martian wrote:Quote OK so how do you explain the definition of image in Gen 1 that defines image as form. I appears that man was created in the form of God.According to your logic we can safely say that all men are pre-existent.Your theory fails on the context issue since the issue is attitude not…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 28 2009,09:41)Hi LU:I have read your response to my posts, and I can see that it is futile to continue to discuss this subject.  You and others believe that Jesus pre-existed, but I and others do not, and since there is no scripture which states outright that he did pre-exist, I not know how this can be proven.Also, I know…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,09:59)Hi M,You said”Jesus had the same character of God breathed into him. He never made a wrong choice all through his confrontation/maturing process. He never gave up His position as a son with dominion over the Earth. This is why He could calm the seas and make gold appear in a fish’s mouth ect.” OK Sorry.So i…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 28 2009,07:59)Martian said:Quote You spoke to me about posting scripture within context. The context of Phil 2 that you site saying Jesus emptied himself is about attitude not deity.Secondly the fact that Jesus was in the form of God does not denote deity. We are all created in the image of God which means form.The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,07:25)Quote (martian @ Jan. 28 2009,07:15)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,07:05)Hi M, So back to the other issues.Can we follow a superman?I have already answered that question and your constant repititions are about to get me to leave this board again. Why don't you actually read my posts instead of just…[Read more]

Sorry mistype — Meant to say references that are 100 years old.

I am outta here for a while – This place is becoming repetitive and lacking to entertain. I have posted the anwers to most of these questions so many times I only have to retireve my previous posts to answer. Boring!!!Most on hee are using resources that date from 11 years ago and do not include information of more recent archeological data such…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,07:05)Hi M, So back to the other issues.Can we follow a superman?I have already answered that question and your constant repititions are about to get me to leave this board again. Why don't you actually read my posts instead of just putting words up on the board.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,06:50)Quote (martian @ Jan. 28 2009,06:31)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 28 2009,05:02)Hi M, You say” Adam made a poor choice and the character of His father that was breathed in him began to die.”” Adam was created with the character of God. “”Adam lost the position of sonship because he covered the character (in his…[Read more]