Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 03 2009,11:09)Hello, I just wanted to interject this:Matt 10:27-2827 What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. RSVMatt 10:2727 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.(from New International…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 03 2009,12:56)Quote that is why it is important to have rules for interpretationI agree.Just a day ago, I found a very good set of rules here:http://www.thercg.org/articles/troebs.htmlRule #4: God’s Word Never Contradicts ItselfRule #5: Find Out What the Bible Really SaysRule #6: Examine the ContextRule #7: “Here a little, the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,09:02)Hi martian, Where?Good debate tactic. I should have looked it up before I said it. However, I consider it of little enough value to spend much time on it and I will just wait till you do it again and then point it out.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 26 2009,08:34)HI, Most people have doctrinal filters throufgh which they unknowingly view sacred scripture. GB is unique as he know he has such a filter and relies on itHe said”Nick…….I believe exactly what is written , I just don't believe your understanding of what is written.  When i put it through my doctrinal…[Read more]

Perhaps instead of throwing back and forth words like “faith” and “believe” someone should actually define what the writers of scripture really meant by thee words. What does faith and believe mean for a man like Paul?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,06:48)Hi martian, Scripture is the test. Witnessing verses can show proofs.Other factors such as culture and usage can be relevant.How do you know what the scripture really means? Rely on yur own logic? Do you use context, language definitions, paraleel scriptures and most important do you judge them by their…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 02 2009,17:03)Hi Nick,I don't know what specifically you are talking about but I don't think that we should discourage people from presenting their ideas/speculations as a theory.  I agree that it is a problem when they lean on their understanding and not open to testing it.  This is a good forum to share thoughts so o…[Read more]

Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 02 2009,07:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,18:17)Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify.  Let me try to make it clearer.  Who is the “I” and the “me” referred to in verse 16?Isa 48:12-16″Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the l…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,06:18)Martian,I have intentionally steered away from this thread because I felt it was getting too tense between us, at least on my side it was. I am taking a breather but will come back. I want to make sure I emulate the spirit of Christ.thinkerI appreciate your candor. I too have had those times before. I have…[Read more]

I like this article on the fear of God.Word of the Month – hary (Yirah – Fear)By: Jeff A. BennerThis Hebrew noun is used forty-five times and is most frequently translated as fear. In our English language fear is a state of excitedness, in a negative way, toward something terrible. Before we look at the Hebraic meaning of this word we will…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,09:00)Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,13:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours s…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2009,05:43)Hi Martian, Thomas learned that when he looked at Jesus he saw his Lord and the God of his Lord in him.Luke 1:68Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,How did he learn that? From a spiritual experiance or from the events that occured in Christ resurection. The context…[Read more]

I am outta here for a while. The snow has melted and I am getting out of the house. I might be back later or not for a while.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2009,05:33)Hi Martian, Thomas learned from the words of his Master Jn14 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 31 2009,10:45)Martian said:Quote I answered your question about YHWH meaning He exists. You posted opinion that it means “I will become” in such a way as to mean it exclusively. I posted sources that said in general it means He exists. Again opinion versus sources.Make up your mind Martian. Did YHWH say “I exist”, or did…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely brings into question your thought process here, sorry. There are t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,04:54)Martian, You assume wrong.Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely brings into question your thought process here, sorry. There are times t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,07:30)Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks.  BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light.  The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars.  I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, etc. but I can't agree with the co…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 31 2009,09:28)Quote (martian @ Jan. 30 2009,05:46)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2009,19:38)Martian said:Quote I will get back to you on the John 5 issue.Martian, I am looking forward to it. As I said, I have been waiting for a Unitarian to overcome this.God speed,thinkerThethinkerFor some reason you seem to think you have…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,08:37)Quote (martian @ Jan. 30 2009,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,07:30)Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks.  BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light.  The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars.  I can understand fi…[Read more]