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    I really did not expect to get much response on this board. Those that are for Pre-existence and the Trinity do not want to deal with the issues I have posted.

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 13 2009,10:32)Martian,Recall what I wrote –Quote Before I share some thoughts I wish to be clear I no longer hold to Trinitarian convictions.  I will try to respond to your question as to how a Trinitarian can be helped in their walkwhen they hold to those beliefs.  Quote Again, I only submit this because I thought you were s…[Read more]

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    Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 13 2009,10:50)Quote (martian @ Feb. 13 2009,08:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 13 2009,04:09)Martian,It amuses me that you expect me to take my time to answer your concerns after you speak to me like that.  If you don't question anything that you believe (see quote) why are you expecting me to give you my time to answer you.…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,11:33)Martian said:Quote I agree that all of them can be false. Martian, Your statement that all sources can be false is a good start. The Bible affirms this:Quote The core of man is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things (Jer. 17:9)So we know both from the Bible and from experience that man is going to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 13 2009,10:24)Quote I suspect that you cannot answer the questions so you avoid them.I have answered your questions time and time again.  This has not been a fruitful correspondence so I suppose we have to agree to disagree.LUI recall no answers to my questins. Could you direct me to the post that you answered them in or…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 13 2009,10:32)Martian,Recall what I wrote –Quote Before I share some thoughts I wish to be clear I no longer hold to Trinitarian convictions.  I will try to respond to your question as to how a Trinitarian can be helped in their walkwhen they hold to those beliefs.  Quote Again, I only submit this because I thought you were s…[Read more]

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    Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 13 2009,10:04)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,10:20)Meerkat said:Quote Martian,You seem to be judging this board only by the vocal people who are replying negatively to your posts and challenging you Meerkat,I agree with you and and I thank you for saying this. If you challenge Martian or his sources you're just speaking…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 13 2009,09:13)Martian,Before I share some thoughts I wish to be clear I no longer hold to Trinitarian convictions.  I will try to respond to your question as to how a Trinitarian can be helped in their walkwhen they hold to those beliefs.  You asked – and rightly so”If His pre=existence helped him overcome temptation then h…[Read more]

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    thinker,When you decide to come back to Earth, I will continue with you.

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,09:17)Martian said:Quote I am willing to throw out all sources but you cling to them. Where did you come up with the idea that YHWH means I will become?  Was it a source?What!!! You're willing to throw out all sources??? I cling to sources??? You ask where I got the idea that YHWH means “I will become what I will…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,08:20)Meerkat said:Quote Martian,You seem to be judging this board only by the vocal people who are replying negatively to your posts and challenging you Meerkat,I agree with you and and I thank you for saying this. If you challenge Martian or his sources you're just speaking “opinion”. Yet I have provided two…[Read more]

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    Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 13 2009,08:14)Thinker You say Quote I'm interested only in the Scriptures. And the Scriptures say this, “I will BECOME what I shall become” (Ex. 3:14). But if I  look at 1961 {hayah} and the other places in scripture that it is used , it does not always have a future sense to it and when it has a future sense to it is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 13 2009,04:09)Martian,It amuses me that you expect me to take my time to answer your concerns after you speak to me like that.  If you don't question anything that you believe (see quote) why are you expecting me to give you my time to answer you.  I do not have that kind of time to waste.  Sorry!Quote Big assumption on yo…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Feb. 13 2009,03:55)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,02:56)To All,Before I do any more posting today I want to say that I have not been pleased with the tone this subject has taken. I am more displeased with myself more than anyone on this board because I have been aggressive toward what I perceive to be attacks on me.I am not a…[Read more]

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    Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 13 2009,07:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 13 2009,03:49)For the above reasons I do not take this board very seriously. For those on here that cannot answer those questions I posed. I am glad you are here because that means you have less time out messing up people in the real world.As for me I take this as an entertainment venue and…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,02:56)To All,Before I do any more posting today I want to say that I have not been pleased with the tone this subject has taken. I am more displeased with myself more than anyone on this board because I have been aggressive toward what I perceive to be attacks on me.I am not a nasty person. I'm just a fighter.…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 13 2009,02:03)Quote (martian @ Feb. 12 2009,07:40)It never seems to occur to most that we actually need to fulfill a purpose or have a proper conclussion to our reams of discourse.  A conclussion and purpose that actually moves the body of Christ forward.Martian,Are these then some of our purposes and should these be our…[Read more]

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    For the above reasons I do not take this board very seriously. For those on here that cannot answer those questions I posed. I am glad you are here because that means you have less time out messing up people in the real world.As for me I take this as an entertainment venue and thats all. Like watching a football game and having about as much…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 12 2009,11:07)Martian wrote:Quote You know we have a variety of education on this board. One thing that is very common is the amount of religious people that are on here. You have those with little education in the word and continually post the same scriptures over and over again with their same opinion over and over. Then…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2009,09:17)Hi martian. You say”For this reason I take much of what goes on here as a game. There is very little serious intent. At least not serious to help others. ” Can you afford to be so negative towards everyone else?It is not about being negative toward others as much as it is negative toward other's methods.…[Read more]

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