Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2010,03:44)Martian,I do not agree with your definition of faith as it sounds like you are inadvertently “putting the cart before the horse.   The making of decisions that are Christ like is the fruit of one’s faith.   That is one reason you must be led by God in coming to Jesus in the first place as it is God who creat…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2010,09:04)Martian,If you are led my God then your soul will be aware of what he wants from his people.   Scripture just makes us knowledgeable by placing a name on those desires.  That is what it means to hunger and thirst for righteousness and being led by God.And if I believe that God is leading me to paint my face G…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2010,03:44)Martian,I do not agree with your definition of faith as it sounds like you are inadvertently “putting the cart before the horse.   The making of decisions that are Christ like is the fruit of one’s faith.   That is one reason you must be led by God in coming to Jesus in the first place as it is God who creat…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2010,04:16)Martian,I do look in to the diverse Hebrew culture of the First Century to the extend I can.  I have found out that Jesus and his students were most likely of different sects of the same tradition.  In addition the teachings of the Pharisees appear to be different than those sects that evolved from them in m…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 23 2010,00:14)Quote (martian @ Sep. 22 2010,23:48)Do you understand and interpret scripture according to Hebrews naming things according to function and not appearance? In otherwords a person can be called God because he functions as God or savior because he functions as a savior. Look at psalms 82 or john 10.These people are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2010,14:01)Martian:Quote And it does not say Christ was made in the likeness of man, it says he was found in the likeness of men. It is simply saying that he was like other men.Finally!  A bite!  Are you ready to put your money where your mouth is Martian?It says, “and was made in the likeness of a human being”.The w…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 22 2010,17:43)Quote (martian @ Sep. 22 2010,02:14)Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 21 2010,11:05)Otherwise we would all just believe anything anyone said, and theres alot of opinions !And there is the key!!!Everyone has their own twist on how to interpret scripture.Hi Martian,Do you twist scripture?Does what you say apply you or do you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 22 2010,17:48)Quote (martian @ Sep. 22 2010,05:45)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 22 2010,04:49)To all,I believe my methods of the interpretation are straight forward in that they rely on the nature of God and thus take into account what God desires in his people and are consistent.So tell them to me.  Do you study Hebrew Culture?Hi…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 22 2010,04:44)Gene,What Jesus was teaching to those that heard his word was they must believe that he is the Anointed One God had promised.  In this way the way to God for those that hear the good news is through faith in Jesus.  He was simply leaving the word “faith” implied.Is that what you are stating I will agree.Depends o…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 22 2010,04:49)To all,I believe my methods of the interpretation are straight forward in that they rely on the nature of God and thus take into account what God desires in his people and are consistent.So tell them to me. Do you study Hebrew Culture? Do you use the original languages of scripture? Do you preserve the context…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 21 2010,12:35)Quote (martian @ Sep. 21 2010,03:00)I have dealt with your scriptures on Phil several times.If Jesus being in the form of God proves his pre-existence then according to that “truth” so did Adam. The word “image” as in created in the image of God means form. Adam was created in the form of God.As to his being…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 21 2010,11:05)Otherwise we would all just believe anything anyone said, and theres alot of opinions !And there is the key!!!Everyone has their own twist on how to interpret scripture. Usually they have little or no principles to guide them in determining what the original intent of the verses were. In other cases they have…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 21 2010,11:02)Shimmer, Terra,Thank you both.Martian, can i summarise and say that what you are saying is that we cannot be 'good' like Jesus so what's the point in trying.Because we cannot be 'good' like Jesus we shoud not bother. Wow man, then there is no hope, or have you wrong?You have me so wrong it is way out there. I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,03:11)Quote (martian @ Sep. 02 2010,09:21)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2010,07:10)Quote (martian @ Sep. 02 2010,07:03)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2010,05:01)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 01 2010,04:34)Quote (barley @ July 31 2010,20:53)Are you sure you would trust me?So, regarding your request about Elohim, Jehovah, and Ruwach:Likewise,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2010,03:32)martianyou sayQuote As to his being in the likeness of men so am I?  Did I pre-exist. I am made in the likeness of other men so was Jesus. It has nothing to do with any so-caloled pre-existencelets make something clear, that the expression  that men is made in the likeness of God ,would mean that he as s…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,14:08)Martianthis are fruits,Living by the Holy Spirit’s Power Gal 5:16 So I say, live by the Holy Spirit’s power. Then you will not do what your sinful nature wants you to do. Gal 5:17 The sinful nature does not want what the Spirit delights in. And the Spirit does not want what the sinful nature delights in. The…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 21 2010,09:56)A question was asked, 'How can we be good?', and another answered, 'We can't be good because we are sinful!'Who believes the answer? Did Jesus not say that we should become like him? If he said so, then it is possible.MosesHow can we be 'good' then?By being 'Godly' as Jesus was 'Godly'. By resisting the Devil…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2010,23:53)Shimmer,To love as God instructs us to do is to stop sinning as hate is a violation of God's law even if that hatred is a minor hate.So it follows the man who claims to love his brother is also claiming to not sin against him.Sadly when we claim to love it speaks more of our intent than our actions.So I can do…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,20:19)First of all, God is love so we must be love as well.Second we need the Holy Spirit.Third we need to walk in the footsteps of Jesus, I love him, He is the best role model I have, I want to love what he loved, hate what he hated, Pray, ask, learn, think, pray more, obey, trust, and so on.How do we walk in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2010,12:06)I'm going to start calling you “Repeat”, Gene.  That's all you ever do.Gene:Quote Mike………What martian has said is right brother if you put all scripture together concerning the Man Jesus you should see clearly that Jesus never preexisted his berth on earth except in the For Knowledge and Plan…[Read more]