Quote (thethinker @ April 15 2010,11:55)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:33)Thinker -Every time in the verses I quoted the person speaking said it was God speaking. Was it literally God or did the words come out of the mouth and throat of the prophet. So the messenger prophesied. What's the big deal?Gen three the term messenger means “one who…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans. Functionally it defeats one of Christ's major mandates.Everything in christ life…[Read more]

In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans. Functionally it defeats one of Christ's major mandates.Everything in christ life becomes a matter of speculation. Everything he did in question. Was it God or man…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 15 2010,15:16)TO ALL:On page 2 of the original “Echad and Elohym” thread Martian  cited an excerpt from the TWOT which he thinks supports the plural of majesty theory of the word elohim.Martian posted:“The Theological Workbook of the Old Testament says,This word , which is generally viewed as the plural of eloah , is…[Read more]

As per usual your assumptions are wrong. If there was a portion taken out of context it was unintentional. I quoted that source from a web site that may have misquoted it.

Thinker -Every time in the verses I quoted the person speaking said it was God speaking. Was it literally God or did the words come out of the mouth and throat of the prophet. So the messenger prophesied. What's the big deal?Gen three the term messenger means “one who walks for another.” Who is this “another”? Is it God? If it is God then who…[Read more]

Nonthinker —Genesis 22:16
And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:So if Moses wrote the book of Genesis then he is God based on the fact that he says saith the lord.Joshua 7:13
Up, sanctify the people, and say, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow:…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 14 2010,07:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2010,15:24)Hi Thinker,I wish you could go out of body as an unbiased person and read the way you butcher the Scriptures to prove a flawed man-made doctrine that isn't even mentioned in the Bible.You said:Quote “So you shall serve Jehovah your God, and HE will bless your bread a…[Read more]

Oh the same stuff over and over again. It makes no difference how much proof is posted, WJ and Thinker (like Moonies and Mormons) will keep on smiling and regurgitating their nonsense.It is clear that Matthes was originally written in Hebrew. For this I give you the testimony of Church Fathers.Papias (150-170 CE) – Matthew composed the words in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,12:51)Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,20:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,10:41)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:23)Secondly, if Jesus had a nature unlike the rest of humanity, He is not like us. Not like his brethren in every way. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.If Jesus was like us in everyway he would…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,10:55)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,18:10)Even more illogical still is the absurdity which they call “compound unity”! (That's the one where the incredibly credulous are invited to scramble their brains with the mathematically preposterous 1+1+1=1!)1+1+1=3 yet the number three is “One Number”!   More…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2010,16:56)hi martianhow you feel dealing with WJ;terraricca Group: MembersPosts: 2801Joined: Oct. 2009  Posted: April 10 2010,12:56  ——————————————————————————–this debate as i see it, does not in any way, is useful,for the ones that are true Christians, it will l…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,03:07)Quote (david @ April 09 2010,23:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 10 2010,05:44)Quote (david @ April 09 2010,03:14)Quote And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they “tempted (Heb-nacah) ” the LORD, saying, Is the LORD…[Read more]

The truth is that the Hebrew Scriptures do often use the plural word Elohim (as well as some other plural nouns, such as *chayim*, literally plural, meaning “lives”, but used singularly: life; Genesis 27:46; Job 10:12) in singular settings, usually with the singular article or singular verbs, etc. This has been called the “plural inten…[Read more]

Tell me WJ and Thinker is the word sheep plural or singular and how do you know?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2010,02:48)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,09:44)Quote (thethinker @ April 10 2010,09:57)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,05:13)The Theological Workbook of the Old Testament says,This word , which is generally viewed as the plural of eloah , is found far more frequently in Scripture than either el or eloah for the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 10 2010,15:27)Quote And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they “tempted (Heb-nacah) ” the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?  Exod 17:7Ye shall not “tempt (Heb-nacah)” the LORD your God, as ye tempted (Heb-nacah) him in Massah. Deut…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 10 2010,09:57)Quote (martian @ April 10 2010,05:13)The Theological Workbook of the Old Testament says,This word , which is generally viewed as the plural of eloah , is found far more frequently in Scripture than either el or eloah for the true God. The plural ending is usually described as a plural of majesty and not…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,12:00)To everyone,It is quite clear that TT and WJ have nowhere to turn in their belief in the trinity.Over the past months since I joined, TT and WJ have done nothing more than spouted the same nonesense over and over, in complete disregard to Scriptural Truth that has been shown to them.They are able to do this…[Read more]

Thinker,Honestly I am having a hard time following your posts. They seem like so much unconnected trains of thought. What does looking for a human king have to do with our discussion. I think sometimes you have a few wires crossed up or something. I am not going to waste my time answering silliness that has no meaning. The readers can see that my…[Read more]