martian replied to the topic Messenger/elohitm/yhwh in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
The simplest of understandings in language states that any word should be able to be replaced by it’s definition without changing that definition.Furthermore the basics of proper interpretation principles says that if a word is defined one way in scripture it should hold that meaning in all others.WJ insist that God/man would be a good d…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Messenger/elohitm/yhwh in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,05:02)Quote (martian @ May 01 2010,12:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,03:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2010,11:49)Hi WJ,I have never seen the phrase God/Man in the Bible. You are inventing deities.peace and love,mikeMikeI have never seen the word Bible in the Bible, but it does exist doesn't…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Messenger/elohitm/yhwh in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,05:02)Quote (martian @ May 01 2010,12:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,03:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2010,11:49)Hi WJ,I have never seen the phrase God/Man in the Bible. You are inventing deities.peace and love,mikeMikeI have never seen the word Bible in the Bible, but it does exist doesn't…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Messenger/elohitm/yhwh in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,03:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2010,11:49)Hi WJ,I have never seen the phrase God/Man in the Bible. You are inventing deities.peace and love,mikeMikeI have never seen the word Bible in the Bible, but it does exist doesn't it?WJThe term “Bible” does not carry within it's meaning a theological idea or theory.…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,06:50)Hi M, Are your views the touchstone for identifying truthseekers?I can give a hoot what others think. Over the past 2 years I havwe seen you as frustrated as me. Your posts have become more confrontational and sad. Is this the fruit of forums? Perhaps you do not notice it because it is happening gradually…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,07:17)Martian,That would be too easy.It is like Jesus saying “Father, if there was a way this cup could be removed from me…but not my will but yours!”or like we say it I.T.: They system would work perfectly – if it weren't for those d&mn users!Martian, all that we do in this forum is the learning, and while all…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,04:00)Martian,Take heart from what Brother Mike is saying to you.His outlook is a correct way forward. I support his position.Treat all opposition as a test of your understanding of the Scriptures, of who God is, of who Jesus is, of what belief in both means, 'this means everlasting life, them taking in knowledge…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,14:59)Quote (martian @ April 25 2010,13:41)When I become christ like enough I expect to be granted the privledge of exercising God's power on Earth.Hi Martian,It's clear that you have been frustrated by some of the people here. You think it is fruitless to try. Maybe some of it stems from your health issues, m…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,11:46)Quote (martian @ April 25 2010,10:16)I am so very thankful that they are on this forum.Hi Martian,I think we lost that battle. There's already way more of them than us. But “the road to everlasting life has few finding it”. I also appreciate that they are here. But my reason is that I learn so much fro…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2010,11:46)Quote (martian @ April 25 2010,10:16)I am so very thankful that they are on this forum.Hi Martian,I think we lost that battle. There's already way more of them than us. But “the road to everlasting life has few finding it”. I also appreciate that they are here. But my reason is that I learn so much fro…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
I will post this and I hope it does not scare Thinker and WJ away. I am so very thankful that they are on this forum. Every minute they are on here means one less minute they are spreading their lies in the real world. They can cause little harm in this format and it keeps them confined to idle work with no purpose.Yep, thank God for forums that…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Thanks Gene and Mike. I do not have time much right now. I am only home for about 36 hours and then back to the hospital for 5 days.
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
I can be absent a week or a year. Still the same merry-go-round. There is no point except added frustration.
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,04:58)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans.…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,04:58)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2010,02:50)Quote (martian @ April 15 2010,10:30)In the end it adds up to this. It makes no difference what you conjure from scripture. The end result of your doctrine is that it makes Christ a different creature from other humans.…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Thinker,I have answered some of your questions on the original thread. I am not going to hop around at your command.
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohyim in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Thinker,A simple question for you. If Jude 5 should read “Jesus” instead of “Lord” Why do only a few translations render it that way?Just like you ignore context, you also ignore other proper principles of interpretation. If there is contradiction in the translations of a particular word in scripture always go with the preponderance of the evi…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohyim in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Thinker,Understanding that the use of God can mean those that act on God's behalf, is it unusual that the Angel of Bethel speaks in a way that the Hebrew culture would understand?
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohyim in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
ThinkerThe Angel of God had God's character and represented/manifested God to the people. From a hebrew mindset, this would be indicated by calling the Angel, God. It is the asme as when God calls the leaders of Israel Gods and jesus does the same. Were they literally Gods? It does not literally mean the Angel is God. You refuse to understand…[Read more]
martian replied to the topic Echad and elohyim in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
he English word “angel” comes from the Greek angelos, which means 'messenger'. In the Old Testament, with two exceptions, the Hebrew word for “angel” is malak, also meaning 'messenger'. The prophet Malachi took his name from this word. He was himself a messengerAlthough the word “angel” in the Bible, meaning a messenger, nearly always applies to…[Read more]
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