5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.Since Mike will not continue I guess I will.All scripture is good for teaching. What does this…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ July 29 2010,10:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2010,14:57)Quote (barley @ July 28 2010,14:06)No, actually you read different words than those that are there.Hey barley and all,Read it again:5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God,     did not consider equality with God something t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2010,10:00)Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,08:57)John 1:6, “There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.” Where is God?  In heaven? Was not John also sent from Heaven?Hi Martian,I don't know what John 1:6 is suppose to prove or disprove.  Is it your claim that John the Baptist wasn't sent from heaven?  How do yo…[Read more]

John 1:6, “There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.” Where is God? In heaven? Was not John also sent from Heaven?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,14:28)Hello All,Does John 6:62 prove Jesus pre-existed?  I say yes.  What say you all?62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!mikeContext Context Context

Mike,Concerning your “stalemate”.1. I read the verses and then developed a hypothesis on their meaning.2. I considered the context both immediate and throughout all of scripture.3. I studied the words in their original language.4. I searched out any impact the Hebrew culture of the time might have.5. I looked for any way that my conclusions mig…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,14:00)Okay barley Gene and Martian,You have all made it clear that you read the words differently than I do.  I want to point out one last thing before calling Phil 2 a stalemate.  And by that, I mean there is no sense in us brothers beating each other up when it is clear that none of us is just being obstinate h…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,13:06)Quote (martian @ July 27 2010,05:58)Mike,Let me add one more point to my previous post. Christ functioning as  a God fits directly with him being the firstborn. As firstborn he has the responsibility to represent his father. To act in his name. Everything Christ did he gave credit to his father because he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,12:59)Hi Martian,You said:Quote Tell me how does an invisible spirit strike the vision? Can you even see it?Are you saying you know that spirit creatures don't have a body?  Paul says Jesus now has a spiritual body.  How is one angel distinguished from another in heaven?  If they didn't have some kind of “body” or…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,13:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2010,04:32)Jesus was and always will be one of Us brother, he never was any different then us.Hi Gene,Do you have a human father?  Did Jesus?  Enough said?mikeIt has absolutely nothing to do with whether he was fully human or not. You hae no way of knowing from Christ birth is h…[Read more]

Quote (The One @ July 27 2010,16:30)I understand that we use other sources to better grasp the meaning spoken of in God's Word,but the Word itself is the final authority to me.Lexicons and Thesauraces give some help in understanding at times,but the Word truly needs no help in any language.We do not need to be informed in Greek,or Aramaic,or…[Read more]

Mike,Let me add one more point to my previous post. Christ functioning as a God fits directly with him being the firstborn. As firstborn he has the responsibility to represent his father. To act in his name. Everything Christ did he gave credit to his father because he represented him as the one in firstborn position should.In many old cultures,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,11:51)Quote (martian @ July 26 2010,10:55)G3444. morphe, mor-fay'; perh. from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts); shape; fig. nature:–form.Hi Martian,Well, there you go.  Strong says morphe means “shape” or “form”.  That fits well with what my sources also say,1) the form by which a p…[Read more]

You say-f you leave behind even your greatest possesions to do the work of God, you will receive even greater treasures from God when that work is finished. Jesus left behind his spiritual life beside his God to empty himself and become flesh and blood. After finishing his task, God rasied him to an even higher position than he had before plus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,12:06)Quote (martian @ July 26 2010,11:33)Mike,I do not like leaving things undone.I will make this short.Do you agree that there are instances of Christ being compared to Adam?Did you read the post on what Adam lost?Hi Martian,Yes, there are instances of Christ being contrasted to Adam.  That is not to say that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,03:55)Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,08:50)Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. mikeInstead of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,06:15)Hi M,You first said “The Hebrew word for Holy means se aside for a special purpose. Argue with the text not me.” Then you said”The literal definition of Holy is “set apart as someone/something special.”They are not the same yet you will not acknowledge this?Was I arguing with scripture?That reference to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,02:06)Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,11:08)Form (morphe) – nature. Comes from the base of the word meros that means to have an allotment, a division or share, piece, portion.6who, although He existed with an allotment or portion from/of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,7but emptied H…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,05:42)Hi ED, Yes those who write books have their own agendas.OMG, you are so silly. I have not written any large work about scripture. I have written a few short articles for my church but that is it.My Agenda is to live in shuch a way that my character is transformed to be luke Christ.

Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2010,05:41)Quote (martian @ July 26 2010,04:00)I am spending far too much time with this computer game. My publisher is on me to finish my next book and I need to work there. Plus I have been practically housebound for 2 years. I am now able to walk again and I need to go do some things. I will try to back to it when I canHi…[Read more]