Your believing Noah “lashed” out after getting drunk is only a belief, it can’t be supported scripturally; but rather it would seem is a teaching of a religion and their condemnation of alcohol. Noah got drunk, did something stupid, past out, and when he woke was angry and lashed out – see how bad drinking alcohol is.

You say “all…[Read more]

For Ham to see his father naked but his child is the one who is cursed seems over the top, which is why I say Ham did something bad to his father; so bad that Noah would curse his son and why the fourth son and not his eldest. Ham did something to Noah and this is what we don’t get in this passage; we never learn what happened and t…[Read more]

I think the more important question is what did Ham do to Noah that he would curse Canaan (What land did the Israelite’s take possession of…hmm – coincidence). To be cursed because Ham saw his father naked doesn’t make sense as it doesn’t fit the punishment; besides, how would Noah have known he saw him naked? He was covered when…[Read more]

Explain what naming someone or being a parent to a child has to do with anything. You keep bringing this up as if it provides concrete proof for the Jesus being a decedent of Solomon. Did you skip reading what I provided in my last comment to you concerning adoption?

Adoption is allowed in Judaism; however, the only inheritance…[Read more]

You still aren’t reading the passages I have given you; reading them will fix every the pollution of christianity. Let’s go over what you wrote:

In Jewish tradition, naming a child was closely tied to the father’s legal role, and biblical examples show that the act of naming was considered a paternal responsibility that estab…

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If, as you claim, Jesus is a demi-god, half god/half human then, according to your idea, the human side of him would be biologically related to David.

Demigod: “A male being, often the offspring of a god and a mortal, who has some but not all of the powers of a god.” The Jesus was conceived by the spirit of G-d thru a mortal woman. Cou…[Read more]

To say that Mary’s Son isn’t a biological descendant of David because He didn’t have a biological father isn’t reasonable. The child was to be the seed of the woman and from a virgin.

Unfortunately the Jesus fails on being a member of the tribe of Judah; biologically he isn’t connected to the line of David because the spirit is the on…[Read more]

I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:

So, because you “believe” the 1995 NAS translation is the more accurate translation, it is?!!? What about the the Hebrew; is it less accurate? I would reason the Hebrew would be the mos…[Read more]

You asked if I have a favorite translation and if I compare them to others. Don’t have a favorite translation; but, when reading the Tanakh I read from a Hebrew translation as that is the closest I can get to the original until I learn Hebrew.

Do I compare translations, the short answer, yes. My study aid ranges from software to o…[Read more]

If the questions you ask AI are christian geared, don’t you think the response will also be christian geared? Try a compare and contrast between the Hebrew and christian understandings and what type of answer you will receive. Ask:

What is the difference in understanding of Isaiah 9:6 in the Tanakh and KJV?

ChatGPT’s sum…[Read more]

Regarding Jesus’ qualifications for the eternal throne:
Jewish Messianic Criteria
Must be a descendant of David through Solomon (based on 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 22).
Must be biologically descended from David, not just legally adopted.

Nothing disagreeable here; your next statements are where the problem lies. You know the Jesus is…[Read more]

AI is your source…like I said before, what could go wrong!!?? AI is programmed by man and can only do what it’s programmed to do; a search engine that can look at more information in a split second than you could in a month and give it back in a readable format. If the only information it finds is based in christianity, what do y…[Read more]

Not speaking of “messianic” Jews – that’s “christianity” with Jewish customs thrown in; I’m speaking of Orthodox Judaism.

Yeshua (Jesus) as the divine Messiah and Son of God

The Jesus can’t be the true Messiah as he wasn’t born of the seed of David and Solomon (he did have a biological daddy), he was conceived of the spirit. Do you…[Read more]

Memra means “word,” in the sense of “the creative or directive word or speech of God manifesting His power in the world of matter or mind”; a term used in the Targum as a substitute for “Lord” when an anthropomorphic expression is to be avoided.” Basically it is a substitution for YHWH and its derivatives.

Outside of the Targums, whe…[Read more]

Once again we aren’t on the same page; you aren’t quoting from the Targum (click here for your Targums – Onkelos and Jonathan are the most used), you’re quoting Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho. It’s no wonder there’s mass amounts of confusion; you aren’t quoting scripture; you’re quoting the musings of man.

If this is what your…[Read more]

At least you now know that the belief of two powers in Heaven, held by enough people as a legitimate interpretive framework drawn from biblical texts as early as 560 BCE, is not a modern interpretation.

Have you heard of the Targums?

Did Moses, Joshua, the Judges, or the prophets teach G-d as a “bi-unity” or more importantly, did G-d…[Read more]

I asked for scriptural proof and NOT writings of a scholar christianizing the Jewish scripture with his thoughts.

Daniel 7:9–14: Describes the “Ancient of Days” (God) on a fiery throne, followed by “one like a son of man” who approaches on clouds, receives everlasting dominion, and is served by all peoples. Early Jewish interpret…

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We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern.

Not trying to grasp a “pattern”; I’m looking at the grammatical structure of the sentence…facts. Did you not read the grammar break down of the sentence? This concept is from…[Read more]

So, let me ask you if you know about the belief that enough early Jews (before Jesus came), believed that the Tanak was speaking about two powers of God, so much so, that the orthodox Jewish rabbis made a declaration about that belief?

Don’t be a tease, back up what you say; provide proof to that statement and the “two powers” of G-d.

You are making no sense, obviously the nation of Israel came from Jacob and his sons; where does G-d claim to be more than one. Please provide the passages that support this “trinitarian” claim (do you notice how you are avoiding the question??).

Can we please finally put G-d/the Jesus “unity” of Deut 10:17 to rest; I understand gra…[Read more]

If I were to say: Israel is Jacob and sons. Would you agree that the statement shows that Israel is more than one person?

You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one. Whereas G-d NEVER refers to HIMSELF as a multi “being”; christianity created t…[Read more]

“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.”

I understand that verse to show that YHWH is God and Lord, two persons.

If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It mea…[Read more]

You realize “Yahweh” is translated to “Lord”…right? So wouldn’t “Lord” also be an appropriate name to use?

When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit

YHWH is yud, hei, vav, hei (Hebrew) and is the “unpronounceable” name of G-d; wher…[Read more]

Let’s start here:

There is a theme of unity throughout scripture. Do you agree?

Unity in relation to what? Please be more specific.

Your original statement of G-d being “two persons” is false (some will say three – that trinity thing…huge false). I don’t understand how you come to that conclusion quoting Deut 10:17. This passage states G-d is G-d and Lord (don’t throw out the conjunction) and when read in context (verses 12-22) HE is telling Israel they are t…[Read more]

At this point, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
I’ll leave you with a FACT, not a theory:
“If the Earth were a globe, it would, unquestionably, have the same general characteristics—no matter its size—as a small globe that may be stood upon the table. As the small globe has top, bottom, and sides, so must also the large one…[Read more]

My answer to your objections:

Here’s an argument by William Carpenter from the year 1885:

If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be—if we could imagine the thing to be peopled all round—“antipodes:” “people who,” says the dictionary, “living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, have their feet op…[Read more]

Hi LU,

Mike gave me a private message for you.
Please read and give an answer:
Can you do me a favor and ask LU about the time I supposedly called her a b….?
1. When did this happen? Weeks ago? Months? Years?
2. Does she have any proof to offer?
3. Did she report the offense?
4. If so, what did Admin do about it? Was I reprimanded?…[Read more]

Hi folks,

Mike was banned unfairly.
I ask you all to show solidarity with Mike
by no longer posting on this forum.
But of course you are free to decide.

God bless you all,

Danny

Please address the post at the top of this page.

@Lightenup

Please come to the Conspiracies thread and offer your input.

Proclaimer:  But you don’t have to bother if you consider that Genesis actually says that God created the heavens and the earth and that the earth was formless and void before the days even began. 

Gene:  By the way I do agree with your point about the earth and water already existed before God started this creation…

Okay, let’s do a comp…[Read more]

Hi LU,

You said:

I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.

Yes. I believe that too.

Hi LU,

You asked:

Danny and Berean,
The three of us are agreeing on both the Father and Son being deity and identified as YHVH, correct?

I agree.

Hi LU,

Thanks.
You asked:

That which is begotten of the eternal One is part of the family of YHVH and is every bit a YHVH as the eternal One that begat Him.
Would you agree to that?

Yes, I agree. That’s the natural conclusion.

You also said:

That which was begotten of Elvis Presley is part of the Presley family and is every bit a…

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Hey guys! and everyone else I didn’t mention,

Irenaeus wrote around AD 185 and mentions John 1:1 five times.
In one reference he comments, “‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”
Irenaeus understood Jesus as more than “a god” or a divine bein…[Read more]

Why did you run away, Kathi?  There are questions pending (I may have just answered my own question).

Who is our ONE Creator?

Who is our ONE Creator according to the Apostles who prayed in Acts 4?  (Obviously I refer to the words of their prayer as recorded by Luke, and not to your own supposition regarding what they “…[Read more]

Hi LU,

If Jesus is Yahweh, then that would contradict Isaiah 45:5.

“I am Yahweh, and there is no one else.
Besides me, there is no God.” Isaiah 45:5

The Bible is a harmony.
So Hebrews 1 has to fit with Isaiah 45:5

If you disagree, then please tell me who is speaking in Isaiah 45:5?
If you say the Father and the Son together, then…[Read more]

Hi LU,

I have to correct my statement.
There are manuscripts that calls Jesus with the article “THE only begotten God” in John 1.18.
And some without the article.
Does this make any difference?
Well, I have to study that a little bit more.

Hi LU,

Thanks for your answer.
I believe that Jesus is an only begotten God.

There is no article in the greek.

Do you believe that Jesus is Almighty God or a lesser God?

Thanks for your posts.
I have to make a deep research.

Goodbye and God bless.

Danny

Hi Lu and Berean,

Can we honestly say that a God/Man was like one of us in every way? Hebrews 2:17

God bless,

Danny

Danny Dabbs,

Nice presentation to prove that before refers to “time” not importance.

LU

That’s right, but they simply can’t accept it because it goes against their doctrine.
Very sad.

God doesn’t change.

Yet you think the Father came from an earlier entity which spawned both the Father and the Son.

So the Father had a father according to your teaching.

Did that father of the Father have a father before that one must wonder if we were to take your doctrine seriously.

Of course we don’t take it seriously.

When did He become the Father of the Son? What was He before He became the Father of the Son?

When the begat or created the first life to be with him would be my guess.

We know that he was called the Father before Jesus came into this world.

Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will…[Read more]

Jesus is so wonderful, the Father is so loving, and their spirit is so comforting.

Amen!

God bless,

Danny

Do you agree with Berean’s conclusion here (see his long post on this page):
Conclusion
FATHER AND SON SHARE THE SAME DIVINE NAME : YHVH
Yeshua Hamashiach IS THE DIVINO/HUMAN NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.
THIS IS THAT I BELEIVE

Yes, I believe that the Father and the Son share the same divine name YHVH
And I personally believe that this name i…[Read more]

OK, thank you for the video.