Hi Nick,

Me: We become the sons of God by putting on Christ.

The below should be proof enough that Christ was filled with the spirit of God before Jordan.

Luke 2:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:.40 And the child grew, and waxed strong…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said: Was Mary the mother of a son with a divine Spirit?

Do you believe that she conceived A GOD?

You: The Catholics believe Mary is the mother of God.

Your ideas sound very similar.

Me: The bible says she conceived the Messiah with a divine spirit–absolutely. That is why he could not sin (1 John 3:9) as we cannot sin when…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You said:

You say Jesus was divine but not almighty.

So he was A GOD but not THE GOD?

Matt 27.50

”And Jesus cried out with a loud voice, and yielded up his spirit”

Did the Holy Spirit forsake him?

Me:

Young’s Literal Translation
And Jesus having again cried with a great voice, yielded the spirit;

Comment: “his” is an added w…[Read more]

You:

You: John the Baptist was anointed in the womb so he would have a human spirit from conception.

But you say that Jesus was different again being conceived differently without a human spirit.

Me: yes, and we all have a human spirit from the womb.

1 Cor 15:38

But the word used in the scriptures for the conceptions of John and Jesus…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

Men can be born with just the divine Spirit and not be gods?

Me: As we become the sons of God by acquiring the divine spirit, the Messiah was the son of God in the flesh, only his was at conception.

You: Was Mary the mother of a son with a divine Spirit ?

Yes

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

You say Jesus was not born with a human spirit yet claim he was a man.

Scripture says he gave up his spirit at his death on Calvary.

Do you think he lost the Holy Spirit then?

Me: I had answered that. Again,

How was Christ the only begotten son of the father. Christ was the only one begotten with the spirit of God as his…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Nick: You insist he was not born like yet claim he was like us.

Me: Read the scriptures again. He was like us when we were following the spirit, not the flesh.

Nick: Born sinless and anointed you say but then you claim he was just like us.

Me: How can Christ be the perfect sacrifice with sin or blemish.  This is elementary. He w…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

His name shall be called Emmanuel?

You ignore the SHALL BE CALLED and change it to WAS CALLED.?

Me: I explained it to you already.  “He shall be called Emmanuel” before he was born and must have been called Emmanuel after he was born.  This is a point that doesn’t prove anything.  It’s called nit picking.

Again,

Young’s Literal…[Read more]

So you do not believe that the Messiah was born like us but prefer the traditional idea of a different being.

Can you follow him?

Me: I believe the Messiah was born like us, but not without sin and with the holy spirit in him at conception.  This is scripture as I have shown you.  So he was born without sin like the first Adam was before he s…[Read more]

Psalm 2:6-7

http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/videos/isaiah-9-6

Isa 9:6 the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty Hero, Father of the Coming Age, Prince of Peace…7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of D…[Read more]

You:  

The Son of Adam became the Spiritual Son of God through his anointing at the Jordan

Me:

False.

Luke 2:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:.40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God w…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

When you speak of Christ you speak of the anointing.

Jesus was made both Lord and Christ.

 The Son of Adam became the Spiritual Son of God through his anointing at the Jordan

You:

You showed us prophetic verses about the anointed one and claim they tell us he was anointed before birth?

Where is the order in all…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Yes, that would fit in.  Thanks!

Hi Gene,

Glad you liked it

Hebrews 1:1 God, who (G3739) at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, (G3739: who) he (God) hath appointed heir of all things, who (G 3739: not whom) he (God and not Christ) also made the (age).

So, using the correct grammer:

Hebrews 1:1 God,…[Read more]

Col 1:12-20

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

 Comment: The inheritance includes everything (see below).

Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Comment: “The kingdom of his…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

Psalm 8.3 is not specific to Yahshua.

It applies to any son of Adam (man) though the salvation and glory spoken of is fulfilled in him.

Me:

Psalm 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him…[Read more]

True

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus (salvation) Christ (anointed) is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

‘ Paul dies daily to his human heart and spirit within his mind.’

Scripture does not say the human heart and spirit is in the mind. You do.

‘If any man wants to be my disciple let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow me.’

’I must decrease. He must increase’

Me: Scripture shows that the sp…[Read more]