Hi Nick,

Hi Nick:

You: Do you seriously believe that having been given the Spirit of life by which God did all the miracles through him,
he lost it when he died and then he was given it again later?
Our faithful God is not a God of confusion but of peace. He never leaves or forsakes His children
The gifts and calling of God are without…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

You: The SPIRITS IN PRISON are specified as being from the time of Noah and the Ark.

Me:
1 Peter 3.18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached (proclaimed) unto the spirits in…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

You: Christ’s Soul is his body?
Matt 10.28 shows they are different.

Me:
Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
5590. psuché: heart (2), heartily (1), life (36), lives (7), mind (1), minds (1), person (1), pe…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

You: Baptism in scripture refers to the TYPE of water baptism unless it specifies otherwise.
God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

Me: It is the baptism of the holy spirit with Christ in it that saves. Water baptism is an outward pledge or calling upon the the name of the Lord to save us.

Hi Nick:

You: From James we know that a body without a spirit is dead.
No scripture says that Jesus was conceived differently without a human spirit.(dead)

Me: I had shown you the scriptures. You have yet to show me one that says Christ had a soul like we do.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You: You say that John received the Spirit after he was born?
Lk 1.15 says differently.

Me:
Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from (G1537) his mother’s…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You: So you think the death of Jesus was when he gave the Holy Spirit back to the Father.
Sorry but you do not understand that he was a man like you and I and his human spirit left him at death.
Ecc12.
The Faithful Spirit NEVER leaves the anointed ones even in death.
Remember the sign of Jonah.

Me:
Eccl 12:7 Then shall the dust…[Read more]

2 Cor 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25 Je…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

Nick wrote (to paraphrase):

You can’t count on 2 Cor 5:6 alone as support that Christians go to heaven after they die.

Me:

I had shown you a whole slew of scripture to support my view. Let’s look at the context of 2 Cor 5:6.

2 Cor 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are abs…[Read more]

cont. from the last post:

Notice wrath here in Job is addressing the crucifixion.   The wrath of God against the wicket occurs after the righteous dead are resurrected from their sleep in the earth and rest in Christ. This occurs in John 5:25 after the Messiah’s ascension into heaven

G 639) angry, before, countenance, face, forbearing, for…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

I will paraphrase your statements since there is a pile of posts to dig through. You said that it was a popular notion for those to quote 2 Cor 5:8 put does not prove we go to heaven if we are baptize and die before the first resurrection.

2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from th…[Read more]

Hi Gene:

You wrote:

TC…Rom 8:11 ..But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from THE DEAD dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from THE DEAD shall also quicken you mortal (dead) BODIES by his Spirit that dwells in you.

That same Spirit is what raised Jesus’ DEAD BODY, FROM THE GRAVE.

TC, we must realize Jesus was truly dead when he die…[Read more]

True: Christ’s soul  is his body.

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

A body without a spirit is dead. Jas 2

But you say God gave a dead body His own Spirit.

Sorry but your teaching here has become far too strange.

Me: no Nick, it is your understanding of what I said and of scripture that is strange.

You had written:

The Spirit given to Jesus did not leave him but raised him after he…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You:

Jesus was conceived of Mary who contributed half of his Chromosomes.

For him to be conceived free from sin was she also?

The Catholics say yes.hmmm.

Me: No, Christ’s mother Mary inherited death and thus was a sinner like we all are. On the other hand, Christ did not inherit sin because he was made of the chromosomes of both…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You: We do not become sons of God by putting on Christ ( Gal.3.27)

Me:

Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children (sons) of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Comment: Verse 26 explains verse 27. We are the children (sons of God) when we have been baptized with Christ…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You:

4815 Sullambano is used for the CONCEPTIONS in Mary and in Elizabeth.

Lk 2.21. Lk 1.36

Me:

Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that hol…[Read more]

You:

No your proof of him as a child being anointed is weak.

The Spirit gives gifts of prophecy, healing , knowledge , discernment of spirits etc(1Cor 12)

and none of these were manifest before the Jordan.

Me: Christ was full of the holy spirit before he went to Jordon as I have shown you. He was anointed with the special gifts of the spirit…[Read more]

You:

God is faithful.

The Spirit given to Jesus did not leave him but raised him after he visited the spirits in prison . 1Peter 3

The same abiding Spirit will raise his brothers too

Me:

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/23-46.htm

Luke 23:46 (interlinear) And having called out with a voice loud Jesus said Father into hands of you I c…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You wrote:

I said that the word used for the conception of John and Jesus is the same one.

But you claim a different type of conception where the embryo has no human spirit?

Me: Conception means conception, but you can be conceived in different ways.  Please show me the verses.