Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Me: The apostles were assembled together to…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
You Quoted Me:
Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
First Fruits
https://www.godfire.net/eby/rev-88.htmlYou: As we are told in Acts, David is still DEAD, he did not ascend to heaven, he died knowing that he would sleep the sleep of death until Christ’s return. The FAITH that he had counted him as worthy to obtain the promise.
Me:
New American Standard Bible
Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
You: On the contrary we are told by Paul that he still struggled with temptation and sin, and his hope was in his mortality body being swallowed up to life, so that he could finally a live a life without temptation. When Jesus was raised in an immortal body he no longer suffers with being able to be tempted. Paul’s longing for this b…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
You: The Old Covenant the law, proved that no man could be righteous able to live without sin, no one could obtain eternal life through following the law, as the law just made sin abound all the more as Paul says.
The New Covenant was that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins, and if we have FAITH in him and believe that he was made…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi:
John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Me: We have a new spirit, the holy spirit and a new human heart of Christ it us. “Living water”in John 7:37 refers to the holy spirit with the hum…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi
You: You are BORN of water and of the Spirit upon resurrection. To be Born of God we are told in 1 John 3 is to live having NO SIN. They will be born of water upon their resurrection because they died having FAITH. All saints are to receive the promise together upon Christ’s return.
Me: You have no scripture to support your insane e…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick, you are Correct. We are called the sons of God now because we are born of the spirit and “water”. This is not the physical water. I will get back to this on the weekend.
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
Hi Jodi,
You:
1 Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Me: This is true, but there is more to it.
Verse 23: But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Me: Everyone is not resurrected at the same time. We have gone over this before. I…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi All,
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Me: We are washed from sin figuratively by the death of our Lord because he had shed his blood for us. The below link is a good…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
You Quoted me: (1) Water baptism is calling upon the name of the Lord to save you. (2) It symbolizes (3a) dying with Christ and being resurrected with him. (3b)This is the baptism of the holy spirit. (4) Fire is the trials that we go through to grow in the holy spirt.
You: This is NOT the baptism of the Spirit, such a baptism has nothing to do…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
That you have faith in the death and resurrection of Christ that will save you.
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
You:
I hope you will look at the scriptures above, as being “baptized” in the Spirit for Paul and those at Pentecost had nothing to do with water. John baptized WITH water, they were baptized WITH the Spirit.Me: I know that. I have always said that.
Being baptized with water is calling upon the Lord in repentance and showing that…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi:
You: As we are told in Acts, David is still DEAD, he did not ascend to heaven, he died knowing that he would sleep the sleep of death until Christ’s return. The FAITH that he had counted him as worthy to obtain the promise.
New American Standard Bible
Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David th…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick,
You: The type of all baptisms – Spirit, Fire – is water baptism.
Me: Water baptism is calling upon the name of the Lord to save you. It symbolizes dying with Christ and being resurrected with him. This is the baptism of the holy spirit. Fire is the trials that we go through to grow in the holy spirt.
1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of you…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Correction:
John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly (heart) shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Me: How can the dead saints in the OT be born of water?
John 7:37 In the last day, that great…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick:
Me: Click on the link below.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/1-15.htm
Then click on 1537 above “from”.
ek or ex: from, from out of
Original Word: ἐκ, ἐξ
Part of Speech: Preposition
Transliteration: ek or ex
Phonetic Spelling: (ek)
Definition: from, from out of
Usage: from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick,
You: The same greek Word is used for the CONCEPTION of John and of Jesus.
But you imagine the conception of Jesus was different?Me:
John 3:16 (Bible Hub) “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Me: click on the link below. Click on “mono” t…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Nick,
You: The same greek Word is used for the CONCEPTION of John and of Jesus.
But you imagine the conception of Jesus was different?
Acts 23.16
And now why do you delay?
Arise, and be baptised, and wash away your sins , calling on his name.But you think this was bad advice?
Me: The Greek word can be born or conception. John was born…[Read more]
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