Hi All,

John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday (2.000 years ago), and to day, and for ever.

Me:…[Read more]

Hi Anthony,

Ernest:

Let us look at the Old Testament Hebrew word Elohim itself to find out what that term really means. First of all, Elohim is clearly a plural word. The two terminal letters “im” make the word to be plural. Etymologically, the word Elohim is derived from the Hebrew words“El” and “Eloah” which are singular words that signify wha…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I have reconciled Phil 1:21-24 and 2 Cor 5:8 with 1 Cor 15:42-45. Now it is your turn.

It is appointed to all men to die once and for all. It is after this that we receive our new bodies.

Hi Jody,

Me:

The resurrection is a spiritual one not a physical one.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. ..39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day (period…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

1 Cor 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

Me: Notice in the verses above, a seed (mind in spirit) comes before a body and can independent of each other.

1 Corinthians 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You:

1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.
Jesus was raised a spiritual body of glory and power,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: These passages below speak against you as Jesus received his glory and power upon RISING,

Romans 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared (3724) to be the Son of God with power,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You quoted me:
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and HAVING received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Me: This verse shows Christ at the right hand of God exalted. This shows Christ being in the presence of his father exalted or glorified. This…[Read more]

Jodi,

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/2_john/1-7.htm

2424 Iēsoús – Jesus, the transliteration of the Hebrew term, 3091 /Lṓt (“Yehoshua”/Jehoshua, contracted to “Joshua”) which means “Yahw…[Read more]

Jodi:

You: What we are TOLD in this verse is that this glory was with God before the world was.

Me: So what. This is the glory that Christ received after he had ascended into heaven.

You: TC I read the passage with knowledge of prophecy, I read the passages knowing that Jesus KNEW prophecy that he knew he was to fulfill.
Jesus certainly knew of…[Read more]

Jodi,

You: The Greek word in the verse is Seautou meaning “thyself” “thee”

YLT John 17: 5 And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee;

The Greek word for presence is Enopion which is not found in this verse, but some translators have chosen to add that word.

For Jesus to be glor…[Read more]

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?page=2&strongs=G3844&t=KJV#lexResults

John 17:5 now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Me This is: “glorify thou me with thine own self”. This means Christ was glorified after he had ascended into heaven in the pre…[Read more]

Except if you want to discuss the below:

Please reconcile 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 with 2 Cor 12:2-3, Phil 1:22 and 2 Cor 5:8 and show no contradictions. then I would like to discuss this with you. Taking all the scripture that pertains to the subject we are addressing is how we understand the bible. You have not really even given…[Read more]

Hey Jodi and Gene,
Please do not address anything more to me on this subject for I will not answer you. I believe that you and your toady Gene have got it mostly wrong and do not want to wallow around with you in your swill.

Hi Jodi:

You:

You have not provided one shred of evidence that Jesus’s body CHANGED upon ascending to sit at God’s right hand. Which is because you cannot as there is no evidence, no word of God that says such in the bible, you and others deny the word of God that is given and then device your own speculations.

Me:

I have produced realms of…[Read more]

Gene:

You: now why don’t you reconcile those scriptures for us , instead of altering the meanings of simple straight forward scriptures to meet you renditions of what you think they mean, by placing you own words or someone elses in them, and forcing the text to meet your conceived perceptions of line upon line, anyone can change text doing w…[Read more]

Gene

You: you said all the words in parented are your even if you completely change word and meanings, we do agree with you on that. As Jodi told you you can make the bible say anything If you switch meanings around. You rely on your own ability to get your understandings, we rely on the “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”, we have recieved from God to reveal the…[Read more]

Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the (deliverance) from our body.

1 Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption (present bodies) inherit…[Read more]

Hi Jodi and Gene,

Please reconcile 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 with Cor 12:2-3, Phil 1:22 and 2 Cor 5:8 and show no contradictions. then I would like to discuss this with you. Taking all the scripture that pertains to the subject we are addressing is how we understand the bible.  You have not really even given cursory  attention t…[Read more]

Gene:

You: Why not try to get that straight in you mind first before jumping all around trying to find something that fits you own personal dogmas?

Me: You do not know how to study God’s word and glean from it. I have shown it to you.  You reject it and thus reject him.

Once again,
Isa 28:9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he ma…[Read more]