@kerwin
you said:

In short god = child of God

Well, I totally disagree with your equation there!

Please answer each question:
1. Based on what you claim, do you refer to Jesus as god?
2. Is Baal a child of God because he is a god to some?
3. Are Jesus’ brethren all children of God? Where does Jesus call His brethren “god/gods?”

@Kerwin

we have discussed  many things, and it seems that you do not believe much from scriptures, and this is in direct opposition to me for I believe the scriptures, as being the very truth of God ,but not in one verse bUT as a whole.

My answer to you is based on our entire experience with each other’s exchange

@kerwin
This guy seems knowledgeable enough to analyze Westcott and Hort and what they did and their intentions as he quotes their own words in these videos:
Battle of the Bibles – http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/125/213-232K/

Changing the Word – http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/126/214ab-232K/

Have you seen these, kerwin? You really oug…[Read more]

@kerwin

you said:

According to you God is Jesus’ Father because Jesus is the same kind as him.

I wouldn’t say it like that exactly. I would say it this way:
Jesus is God’s only authentic son which would naturally make Him of the same kind as His father. Being the ONLY authentic son sets Him apart from all others that are called sons of God w…[Read more]

@kerwin

you said:

According to you God is Jesus’ Father because Jesus is the same kind as him.

I wouldn’t say it like that exactly. I would say it this way:
Jesus is God’s only authentic son which would naturally make Him of the same kind as His father. Being the ONLY authentic son sets Him apart from all others that are called sons of God w…[Read more]

@kerwin
You try to hold so tightly to your own reasoning. I have shown you many things in scripture that show that Jesus is a son of God, the kind that is after the kind of the father’s kind. He is called the firstborn over all creation, and God connected that with the light of day one for me. He is called the only begotten son of God. Jesus said…[Read more]

@kerwin

There is no evidence in Scripture that God reproduces after his kind

Hmmmm…..
The Son is the exact reproduction of the Father.

Heb 1:3
And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation (charaktér) of His nature…
Strong’s #5481-charaktér: a tool for engraving
Original Word: χαρακτήρ, ῆρος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Ma…[Read more]

@kerwin

Are you just now realizing that I am saying that the Son of God is a special, authentic offspring of God and the only son of God in this manner?

@kerwin
The Son of God existed before the cosmos was created. He became the Son of Man also. All things were created through Him and for Him.

Btw, t8 did not make a point except that he can take things written out of context and twist them to try to discredit others. I’m not dodging a worthy challenge because I see none.

@kerwin
You speculate that Jesus is handing over the kingdom of Light to His Father. I don’t believe that is what is being talked about. Instead it is the Kingdom of Darkness that Jesus has abolished and handed over to the Father. The kingdom of Light already acknowledges the Father as God and ‘head’ of the Son. Christians in general do not…[Read more]

@kerwin
You are speaking of the “Son of Man” who is the promised heir to David’s throne. I am speaking of the Son of God. He is both!

@kerwin
you said:

Jesus was not adopted.

Nevertheless consider that Isaac who was Abraham’s second child is called Abraham’s one and only child in Scripture despite the fact that Ismael is also Abraham’s child. Scripture chooses the call Isaac the one and only child because Isaac is the child of the promise and Ismael, though his brother, is no…

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@kerwin
you said:

You already know I do not mean he is a person that is called Wisdom but that he is instead the vessel of God’s literal Wisdom.

Yes, I am aware that you do not acknowledge Jesus to be the wisdom of Prov. 8 but that He represents God’s wisdom as a man. However, in the end of the book, He is worshiped as a person that, with a…[Read more]

@kerwin
Regarding wisdom being the person of Jesus…

Luke 11:49 Therefore also the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and persecute,’

1 Cor 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Luke 8:21 But he (Jesus) answered them, “My…[Read more]

@kerwin
Are you suggesting that once the new covenant was in place that mankind changed from depraved to righteous?

Eph 2:1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3 among w…[Read more]

@kerwin
I believe we have gone over this. Once again, regarding gender of words whether Greek or Hebrew, the gender of words that have no obvious gender, like wisdom or head, are written as having gender. In Hebrew, nouns are either masculine or feminine. In Greek, nouns are either masculine or feminine or neuter. Wisdom is always a feminine noun…[Read more]

@kerwin
I believe we have gone over this. Once again, regarding gender of words whether Greek of Hebrew, the gender of words that have no obvious gender, like wisdom or head, are written as having gender. In Hebrew, nouns are either masculine or feminine. In Greek, nouns are either masculine or feminine or neuter. Wisdom is always a feminine noun…[Read more]

@kerwin
I believe we have gone over this. Once again, regarding gender of words whether Greek of Hebrew, the gender of words that have no obvious gender, like wisdom or head, are written as having gender. In Hebrew, nouns are either masculine or feminine. In Greek, nouns are either masculine of feminine or neuter. Wisdom is always a feminine noun…[Read more]

LU,

@kerwin

Regarding the depravity of all men:
*Isa 64:6 For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Then you are speaking of those that are not living by the Spirit as those Isaiah spoke of were…[Read more]

@kerwin
Regarding Jesus always being a Son of God even before creation:
I believe that this passage is talking about the person of Jesus and is symbolized as ‘wisdom.’ Something I believe that God showed me that has driven me into scriptures and changed my desire to study fervently was what happened to me when I asked God what was meant by the…[Read more]