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    Nick,

    In addition Philo uses Logos much like John does and perhaps even others.

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    Nick,

    It is irrelevant that Philo is of the world as I was talking of culture and the ideas communicated within a culture. After all you have heard of being a Jew a Jew and a Gentile to a Gentile. If the words written to a Gentile are heard by a Jew then the later may misunderstand and vise versa.

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    mstrainjr,

    I like these words from the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy that I linked to in my last post to you.

    b.) When the scripture uses the Greek term for God ho theos, it refers to the true God, but when it uses the term theos, without the article ho, it refers not to the God, but to his most ancient Logos (Somn. 1.229-230).

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    Mstrainjr,

    Tradition favors my position as it holds the Anointed is a human being descended of David and not a being that existed before David came to be.

    In addition Philo spoke about the word that comes from God’s mouth, aka Logos, much as John does but clearly did not intend it to be confused with a person even though he called it the first…[Read more]

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    Mstrainjr,

    Tradition favors my position as it holds the Anointed is a human being descended of David and not a being that existed before David came to be.

    In addition Philo spoke about the word that comes from God’s mouth, aka Logos, much as John does but clearly did not intend it to be confused with a person even though he called it the first…[Read more]

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    t8,

    Where is it written that salvation is a free gift?

    Does that idea fit with Jesus’ words that strive to enter the narrow gate in Luke 13:24?

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    mstrainjr,

    The word is a male gender noun in Koine Greek so the correct Koine Greek pronoun no matter what the natural gender of the subject is male. For example “light” in John 1:5 is neuter and “it” is substituted for light is also “neuter”. Light remains “neuter” even when John implies Jesus is the “light” in verses 7-9.

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    mstrainjr,

    John is the only gospel writer (as far as I know) to say that Jesus existed with God in the beginning (John 1:1)

    Catholics and their decedents teach that the word in John 1:1 is an alternative title for Jesus but that is not true. Instead the word is literally the word that comes from God’s mouth and so was with him in the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    I am not saying there is not a division but rather that the two are associated.

    For example when the witch called the ghost of Samuel forth from the Sheol he bore fruit and that fruit is the of a spirit. He also spoke as he was carried along by the Spirit.

    Another point is the old man and the spirit he walks by is put to death in baptism…[Read more]

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    t8,

    You judge Ray Comfort as not having eternal life because he holds to the Trinity, whereas I do not see anywhere that people are damned if they have accepted false teaching and even if they preach it. What I see is that they are judged more harshly.

    According the Scripture one of the works of the flesh is heresy and those that live…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    The soul is a spirit as it the breath but they are not the same as the soul descends to Sheol and the breath returns to God. There may be a separate spirit which is associated with the soul such that it can be lived according to by the soul.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    I am unsure of the relation of the breath and the spirit as both are like the wind and so called spirit. They could be the same thing.

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    David,

    I am not sure people have gotten better at abstract thinking because Scripture uses a lot of it and many today still stumble over the ideas expressed that way.

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    David,

    I happen to know that since the middle of the 19th Century the birth rate has been declining which leads to an aging population.

    I also know that younger people are more prone to violence.

    The result of these is that the decrease of young people in proportion to the total population would correspond to a decrease in violence.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    Our human spirit knows our deep things and therefore can reveal them to God just as his Spirit reveals his deep things to those that believe. I quoted what I did because they related to a human spirit revealing deep things to God.

    I know that about the spirit of man and given when given that is true of the human then I expect more from God’s.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum kerwin 10 years, 3 months ago

    t8,

    He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh…

    That choice of words imply he had flesh before he came.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    t8,

    or just “be humble”.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    Romans 8:26-27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Ed,

    John 14:14 teaches us to ask God in Jesus’s name and Jesus as the mediator between God and humanity will do it.

    It says nothing about the Spirit praying to the Spirit.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Ed,

    John 14:14 teaches us to ask God in Jesus and Jesus as the mediator between God and humanity will do it.

    It says nothing about the Spirit praying to the Spirit.

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