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    Nick,

    Your accusation is not of God since I do not believe all of what Philo says but only that which agrees with Scripture.

    I also know it is foolish to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    He was alive in the Spirit of eternal life.

    I disagree at the a person alive in the Spirit is incorruptibly and immortal.

    Jesus was raised from dead by the Spirit, Romans 1:4

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    @t8,

    Revelations is a book of symbology and I do not quite grasp the symbols in that passage. Sometimes I can figure out the symbols by researching how they are used elsewhere but if I have done so with that passage then I do not remember.

    Your point is testified by other Scripture but it seems to be contradicted by the second passage you…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick,

    Samuel was awoken from his rest in Sheol by the witch of Endor. His breath had returned to God and was not returned to him when the witch summoned his “god” from Sheol. He was not spiritless but bore fruit even though he was without breath.

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    Nick,

    I am asking you about Scripture.

    After all the idea is to test Philo’s writing by Scripture.

    Most does not teach anything not in Scripture though it does give a cultural viewpoint on certain Scriptures and Scriptural ideas.

    I throw out those parts that test false and reserve my opinion on those that I do not know if they are true or not.

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    Nick,

    I believe it is the breath and as far as I can tell so does Philo. His effort is to link the creation of man in Gen 1:27 to the making of Adam inn Gen 2:7. He claims that man was created in the image of God is the Logos and through the Logos men know and perceive God.

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    False.

    There is no suggestion that God gave of His Spirit to all humans.

    Jewish mysticism and Greek intellectualism are equally false teachings.

    bad food

    Isn’t it written that the spirit returns to God who gave it? (Ecclesiastes 12:7))

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    David,

    Another factor is that human beings live longer on average today that we did in the Middle Ages leaving even a lower proportion of individuals in that young adult state where violence is more likely.

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    Nick,

    I use what sources I have and if God chooses to give me perfect ones then I use them as well. If John had written as many details as Philo then it would be better than Philo’s writings. If he did we do not have access to it so I use Philo’ words to figure out what unwritten context is writen. It is not like Philo’s reasoning is…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    I use what sources I have and if God chooses to give me perfect ones then I use them as well. If John had written as many details as Philo then it would be better than Philo’s writings. If he did we do not have access to it so I use Philo’ words to figure out what unwritten context is writen. It is not like Philo’s reasoning is…[Read more]

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    t8,

    So it is with salvation. It is free upon believing, repentance, and receiving.

    That means it is not really free. Free salvation is universal salvation.

    I was hoping you would address Jesus’ words in Luke 13:24. The answer was revealed to me.

    The narrow gate is the righteousness from God.
    Strive hard to enter the narrow gate using…[Read more]

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    t8,

    The bible contains no letters to the unsaved. The closest are the book of Acts and Gospels but all of them are written to the saved.

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    Nick,

    Philo writes in reference to the Old Testament expression that God “breathed into” (equivalent of “inspired” or “gave life to”) inanimate things that through this act God extended his spirit into humans (LA 1.37). Though his spirit is distributed among men it is not diminished (Gig. 27). The nature of the reasoning power in men is…

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    Nick,

    Thank you for the research.

    Raymond F. Suburb is a theologian and possibly a heretic giving his opinion.

    I have read his writings and I found them Gnostic in flavor but still Jewish. He is a heretic. In all he comes off as a Hellenized Jew which leads me to believe John’s audience was Hellenized Jews.

    Jewish mystics are known today and…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    I am not the one that speaks without support you are.

    I have already given the passages of Scripture and you choose to brush them away because you are sticking to your own understanding.

    It is necessary to understand the language and context thereof to understand the meaning of a passage unless you are a prophet that reveals the truth to…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Your justifications are flim flam.

    Men cannot add to the Words of God.

    The spirit that infuses philosophy is not holy.

    Why do you disagree with Paul’s claims To be a Jew to a Jew and a Gentile to a Gentile and that a few words with understanding are worth a multitude without.

    Why do you condemn what God does not for God…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Your justifications are flim flam.

    Men cannot add to the Words of God.

    The spirit that infuses philosophy is not holy.

    Why do you disagree with Paul’s claims To be a Jew to a Jew and a Gentile to a Gentile and that a few words with understanding are worth a multitude without.

    Why do you condemn what God does not for God…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Philo wrote:

    b.) When the scripture uses the Greek term for God ho theos, it refers to the true God, but when it uses the term theos, without the article ho, it refers not to the God, but to his most ancient Logos (Somn. 1.229-230).

    and that is how John uses theos in John 1:1. John uses the article in the clause “The word was with God”…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    The Spiritual is written in many languages and those who do not understand the language it is written in do not understand the Spiritual message of the words. The same is true with culture which is why Paul wrote the words of 1 Corinthians 9:20-22. The bottom line is to communicate the gospel in the way your hearer will understand it and…[Read more]

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    t8,

    If I counted the generations correctly in Luke 3 then Jesus was of the 67th generation of humanity. If you assume each generation was 1000 years then that is still 67,000 years from the creation of Adam to the time of Abraham to the time of Jesus’ death on the cross. The Devonian era was more that 6 times older than that. It could have…[Read more]

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